So, it looks as if will see the destruction of at least two planets. One is imploding and the other is being destroyed by some kind of shockwave.
There's a New TV Spot Trailer Now
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Well, as long as they make something that's entertaining, I think they can rape and exploit it as much as they want.I'm taking the "forget everything" as we're starting this over how WE want it ....I really really hope I'm wrong about that. I'd rather that Trek just go the grave than it be raped & exploited for every last friggin thing that it has ...of course for the almighty dollar.
For fucks sake they should of come up w/ different characters then...I don't want them running Kirk & Spock into the ground and thru the mud."starting over w/ different history...what??? Again hello hollywood can't u come up w/ anything new and fresh...WTF aren't they getting paid enough to come up with shit????. !@#$&^*(^@# As you can see I'm just a tad bit; ever ever so slightly negative.
Awesome spot! There are two big movies that I'm excited for in May, and their trailers and spots are having exact opposite effects on me... X-Men looked great, but is starting to look more meh. Star Trek, on the other hand, started off looking ok, but every new trailer and spot that comes out is making it look more and more incredible! I am definately excited to be checking this one out!
RobertScorpio
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Well, as long as they make something that's entertaining, I think they can rape and exploit it as much as they want.I'm taking the "forget everything" as we're starting this over how WE want it ....I really really hope I'm wrong about that. I'd rather that Trek just go the grave than it be raped & exploited for every last friggin thing that it has ...of course for the almighty dollar.
For fucks sake they should of come up w/ different characters then...I don't want them running Kirk & Spock into the ground and thru the mud.
Awesome spot! There are two big movies that I'm excited for in May, and their trailers and spots are having exact opposite effects on me... X-Men looked great, but is starting to look more meh. Star Trek, on the other hand, started off looking ok, but every new trailer and spot that comes out is making it look more and more incredible! I am definately excited to be checking this one out!
Wow..i totally agree with you on the trailers. XMEN/Wolvering is starting to have a 'low budget' look to me...TREK XI is looking better each time...great post!
Rob
Well, as long as they make something that's entertaining, I think they can rape and exploit it as much as they want.
XI might be all interesting and exciting and entertaining, but storywise it won't add much to Star Trek in the long run. It's a step backward and I think it will get tiresome to see movies being set in a timeframe we've already been through. Sure, the movies as such might be good, but they won't bring Star Trek forward.
I think a post Nemesis timeframe would have been the more interesting setting. I would have preferred to see some lose ends we still have there being tied up instead of a fanwank story about how Kirk & Co. got together. Plus the whole issue of recasting and redesigning would have been avoided.
The only thing that might save XI for me as a Star Trek movie is the inclusion of old Spock. Without him it would have been be just another action movie in space.
RobertScorpio
Pariah
Well, as long as they make something that's entertaining, I think they can rape and exploit it as much as they want.
XI might be all interesting and exciting and entertaining, but storywise it won't add much to Star Trek in the long run. It's a step backward and I think it will get tiresome to see movies being set in a timeframe we've already been through. Sure, the movies as such might be good, but they won't bring Star Trek forward.
I think a post Nemesis timeframe would have been the more interesting setting. I would have preferred to see some lose ends we still have there being tied up instead of a fanwank story about how Kirk & Co. got together. Plus the whole issue of recasting and redesigning would have been avoided.
The only thing that might save XI for me as a Star Trek movie is the inclusion of old Spock. Without him it would have been be just another action movie in space.
I don't think a POST NEMESIS movie would make any money at all, no matter how good it was. Too much time has passed, and if you think about it? Since NEMESIS and INSURRECTIONS were such big flops, JOE Q public hasn't seen a trek movie since First Contact which came out, what, 13 years ago..TNG is long dead...
TOS is coming back because more than any other TREK show it has staying power with the public..always has always will..IMO
Rob
Well, as long as they make something that's entertaining, I think they can rape and exploit it as much as they want.
XI might be all interesting and exciting and entertaining, but storywise it won't add much to Star Trek in the long run. It's a step backward and I think it will get tiresome to see movies being set in a timeframe we've already been through. Sure, the movies as such might be good, but they won't bring Star Trek forward.
I think a post Nemesis timeframe would have been the more interesting setting. I would have preferred to see some lose ends we still have there being tied up instead of a fanwank story about how Kirk & Co. got together. Plus the whole issue of recasting and redesigning would have been avoided.
The only thing that might save XI for me as a Star Trek movie is the inclusion of old Spock. Without him it would have been be just another action movie in space.
I don't think a POST NEMESIS movie would make any money at all, no matter how good it was. Too much time has passed, and if you think about it? Since NEMESIS and INSURRECTIONS were such big flops, JOE Q public hasn't seen a trek movie since First Contact which came out, what, 13 years ago..TNG is long dead...
TOS is coming back because more than any other TREK show it has staying power with the public..always has always will..IMO
Rob
Just saw the new tv spot on trekmovie; some new mixed in with the old, i liked it. I agree with the statement that a Post Nemesis movie wouldn't do as well. Kirk/Spock and TOS are usually the first thing most people think of when you say "Star Trek". Nothing against TNG, i grew up watching it and its awesome, but its had its 7 year TV and 4 movies run.
And now I'm debating on watching TOS or TNG tonight hahahah
Wow!
Looks great to me!!!!
Colour me excited!!!!
Looks great to me!!!!
Colour me excited!!!!
Thanks! Interesting comment by Kurtzman saying Nero isn't necessarily a Romulan. That seems contrary to Countdown, though.That's been a question since the very first Nero image was released, but I don't think we've ever got any real answer besides "It's all part of the plot."
Could someone tell me what happened to Nero's ear tip?
I think maybe they want us to watch the movie to find out.
Either this shot or the original movie poster is "reversed" (or both his ears are damaged). And I wouldn't take comments from summer 08 as definitive vs all the stuff we've seen since.Thanks! Interesting comment by Kurtzman saying Nero isn't necessarily a Romulan. That seems contrary to Countdown, though.That's been a question since the very first Nero image was released, but I don't think we've ever got any real answer besides "It's all part of the plot."
Could someone tell me what happened to Nero's ear tip?
I think maybe they want us to watch the movie to find out.
so cant wait, im dying inside lol i wanna see it NOW!!!
I'm taking the "forget everything" as we're starting this over how WE want it ....I really really hope I'm wrong about that. I'd rather that Trek just go the grave than it be raped & exploited for every last friggin thing that it has ...of course for the almighty dollar.
For fucks sake they should of come up w/ different characters then...I don't want them running Kirk & Spock into the ground and thru the mud.
That tagline is actually consistent with the story's theme itself, which is meta-textual from the fans' perspective.
"The opening sequence, for example, is an emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure to leave zealots howling 'Heresy!' But revisionism anxiety is the point. 'The movie,' Lindelof says, 'is about the act of changing what you know.'"
http://www.filmguide.co.nz/2008/10/17/jj-abrams‘-star-trek/
That, unfortunately, is true. The other two trailer scores were bombastic, to say at least, but this one was more like, 'meh...' Still, the new/additional scenes were talking for themselves!
I'm taking the "forget everything" as we're starting this over how WE want it ....I really really hope I'm wrong about that. I'd rather that Trek just go the grave than it be raped & exploited for every last friggin thing that it has ...of course for the almighty dollar.
For fucks sake they should of come up w/ different characters then...I don't want them running Kirk & Spock into the ground and thru the mud.
That tagline is actually consistent with the story's theme itself, which is meta-textual from the fans' perspective.
"The opening sequence, for example, is an emotionally wrenching passage that culminates with a mythic climax sure to leave zealots howling 'Heresy!' But revisionism anxiety is the point. 'The movie,' Lindelof says, 'is about the act of changing what you know.'"
http://www.filmguide.co.nz/2008/10/17/jj-abrams‘-star-trek/
"To feel the thrill of victory there has to be the possibility of failure." -Pulaski
Trek is only fun if there's uncertainty. Enterprise tried to use the temporal cold war to this effect, but no one was really gonna give them that much discretion.
This new film uses a similar strategy but I hope to better effect. The principal difference I think is that they've recreated the universe. The possibilities are limitless and the end is not a foregone conclusion.
The death of Spock was a high water mark in Trek films. Sometimes you have to kill your idols for them to live.
"Make it new." -Pound
Eureka! Yes, that's very perceptive (I'm being sincere, I'm never sarcastic on the Internet, just in-person
) That makes a lot of sense in the context of a story with an altered timeline and a theme, as Lindelof says, about "changing what you know" (and a tagline "Forget Everything"). Altered events have thrown Kirk off course, and although the timeline remains altered, we see an unfamiliar, stunted Kirk who, perhaps, has to overcome defeatist self-perceptions that have held him back. He has to forget everything he thinks about himself to become the Kirk that we know, and finds his intrinsic Will to Power, his place in the Hegelian Geist, his destiny, whatever. Or Spock reorients him with a mindmeld. 
But it would be more interesting if he self-actualized on his own.
I'd pay to see that...now lets hope that Abrams and the writers can get that point across on the screen and to the audience.
Eureka! Yes, that's very perceptive (I'm being sincere, I'm never sarcastic on the Internet, just in-person
That's a very interseting idea though -- that Kirk will be "different/wrong" at some point of this film, but becomes the familiar Kirk as the film progresses. I'm not just talking about "young teenage and 20-year old Kirk grows and matures into the man we know", but rather Old Spock noticing that 28-30 year old Kirk is not the man he is supposed to be at that age.
There's some ambiguity, to be certain. In various images, we seem to have seen both left and right ears with and without damage.
Yeah, it mainly seems to me as if Kurtzman is trying to say "I'm not going to tell you" as much as anything. It could be a nice wrinkle, though, if he had been hinting that in some way Nero both was and was not Romulan,
as a result of his renouncing his Romulan heritage in the wake of what he felt was betrayal by the Romulan leadership? That might be one way of explaining the ears, as well.
Or it could be something else, altogether.
