Theory why spore drive isn‘t used later on in Star Trek Universe

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by ChrisRBee, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. Ryan Thomas Riddle

    Ryan Thomas Riddle Vice Admiral Admiral

    Dec 26, 2003
    The Bay Area
    That's my approach with all the Trek spinoffs. ;)

    It's not a PLOT HOLE. It's a franchise inconsistency but not a story inconsistency. Hence not a PLOT HOLE.

    “Plot hole” is the most overused critique in all critiques, especially for genre works. It’s used to mean “I didn’t like it” or “the character acted like an irrational human” or “it’s a franchise inconsistency”.

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  2. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

    Oct 10, 2013
    I think it’ll be the major arc of the season. It’s actually much more intriguing than the Klingon war from the first season.

    Indeed. I think VOYAGER mentioned the Prophets just once and it’s the only other Trek series besides DS9 to do that.
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  3. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 24, 2011
    4 times actually.

    Seska exclaims their name once, it's used in the chant by the Maquis guy who brainwashed the Crew, and mentioned by the Holographic Bajoran in that one Hirogen episode.
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  4. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

    Oct 10, 2013
    Where else were they mentioned? I can only think of Seska’s “thank the Prophets!” from “State of Flux”.
  5. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 24, 2011
    I edited my post.
  6. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

    Oct 10, 2013
    Ahhh, S7 VOY. I blocked that off from memory.
  7. worf1965

    worf1965 Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

    Mar 5, 2018
    Just a not so small quibble here. The word theory as used in the thread title is used incorrectly. A theory is something that has been tested so often that it is accepted as true by all, such as the Pythagorean Theorem or the Theory of Evolution. I think what the thread starter should have said is hypothesis or guess. This is a common misconception in our society and why we have so many people who think that theories such as the Theory of Evolution are only best guesses when in fact they have so much evidence backing them up that they are accepted as fact by scientists, mathematicians, etc.
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  8. ChrisRBee

    ChrisRBee Ensign Newbie

    Mar 12, 2017
    You are correct in scientific terms. As I didn‘t propose a scientific hypothesis in a scientific discourse the term theory in its colloquial sense is completely correct. There are many words which habe different meaning in different circumstances. - Still has no bearing to the subject though ^^
  9. SG-17

    SG-17 Commodore Commodore

    Nov 28, 2008
    Annorax shows up and erases the spore drive from history.
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  10. RedAlert

    RedAlert Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Sep 8, 2016
    Maybe its just that the seven red signs are direct consecuence of an mycelian space break due the Discovery travels ... and the red angels are some kind of living creatures of the mycelial network ... and a new treaty is set to Starfleet not to develop this technology ...but the S-31 could use it on very isolated cases sooo... S31 take over the Spore Drive for their secret missions ... and we never talk or hear about it again.

    I'm just random thinking...
  11. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jul 24, 2011
    Remember,Janeway was against harming other species to get home faster (Equinox) so she wouldn’t use the Spore drive if this problem was never solved.

    the angels don’t seem to be acting in any way that would indicate that.

    They’ve been leading the Discovery to people who will need help. Like a guardian angel.
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  12. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Vice Admiral Admiral

    Nov 20, 2012
    Didn't we just figure it out? Using the spore drive was killing May's people.
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  13. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Apr 23, 2010
    I thought Brexit was killing May's people
  14. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

    Aug 23, 2003
    Tacoma, Washington
    In the interview with Anthony Rapp in this week's Ready Room, he suggested that maybe the spore creature wasn't being entirely honest.
  15. SJGardner

    SJGardner Captain Captain

    Jan 10, 2018
    In the center of Europe
    Hmm, that makes me wonder... might it be that they'll stop using the network not because we are damaging it but rather to keep whatever's lurking in it from entering our world?
  16. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Aug 26, 2003
    The mycelial thing spans all possible universes. Nothing relating to just one or two species ought to shake it, because if it did, well, it would already have.

    There's always a balancing force there, inferred from the fact that there is balance. We once saw two Stametses slugging it out over the balance issue. Now we're seeing different players doing the same. Neither can win, by default, inferred from the fact that spore network travel does happen and pain to network dwellers does happen. Victories will only be temporary, of local significance, and overturned at the drop of a hat.

    Nothing about this precludes a solution where humans are forced to give up spore network use for good, of course. We are just bit players, after all. But there will always be other users, perhaps other humans, and tardigrades, and whatnot, and May's folks clearly haven't got a clue about what to do to stop them, as they have no clue about how to stop Stamets. Which defines May's folks as bit players, too.

    Timo Saloniemi
  17. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Vice Admiral Admiral

    Feb 21, 2005
    On the USS Sovereign
    Which is why the Spore network must become unusable not banned.
  18. Vger23

    Vger23 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Apr 19, 2014
    New England
    The spore drive will be retired.

    Next up, though: Deflector Shields based upon rat feces.

    You heard it here first, people.
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  19. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

    Nov 3, 2009
    previously Mickmike
    Also torpedoes powered by vietnamese pho noodle soup. They will be called Pho-ton torpedoes....

    I'll show myself out
  20. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Jul 27, 2018
    Even if that stops the squeamish Federation from using it, that won't stop the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Dominion, Borg and other more ruthless races from finding the research and using it themselves. Just from Discovery alone, the Klingons must have knowledge the spore drive exists. The Tal Shi'ar, the Founders, and the Obsidian Order will find out too. And the Borg can assimilate the knowledge.