Spoilers The X-Files: Season 11

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  1. EnderAKH

    EnderAKH Commodore Premium Member

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    Per this article, it was all planned:
     
  2. crookeddy

    crookeddy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Odds that he is lying?
     
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  3. bigdaddy

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    ^ Depends what do you consider lying? There is the chance he's just delusional.

    Same way Gene Roddenberry did it with Star Trek, or George Lucas with Star Wars. As time goes on you get worse and worse because less people tell him no. He might be the creator but others really made the show what it is.
     
  4. Turd Ferguson

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    I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics, but can anyone tell me the reason Mulder treats Skinner like he's a colossal sack of shit?
     
  5. Orac

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    I wasn't really paying attention either but wasn't it because he smelled of cigarette smoke?

    Anyways, Chris Carter deserves to be punched in the face by Buzz Aldrin for writing this episode.
     
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  6. Turd Ferguson

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    He did smell of smoke, but I'm thinking Mulder was hostile toward him before that. Wasn't he treating him like a piece of shit last season too?
     
  7. Orac

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    Yes he was.

    For those who haven't seen it, here's Buzz Aldrin punching a conspiracy theorist in the face:
     
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    This episode was horrible, and it's not often I am moved to say that about an X-Files episode, even the M&S performance is usually enough to keep me interested. This gave me a headache, there were several periods of quick cuts between different scenes that went on and on with each scene lasting only a few seconds, it felt like watching a music video, not a TV show.

    The plot was a convoluted mess. I can't even bring myself to speak of it.

    Also I don't like it when they consantly make Scully a victim, she should be out there kicking ass, not laying in a hospital bed being saved by Mulder.

    Bring on some standalones by different writers, PLEASE.
     
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  9. Forbin

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    And, really, you slit a guy's throat to stop him from attacking someone? Doesn't the FBI teach better takedown techniques than that? Dramatic, but sloppy.
     
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  10. Ometiklan

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    Agree totally.

    So, I just caught up with the premiere last night. I did not like it at all.

    For season 10, I thought like most people that it was a mixed bag with "The WereMan" being easily the best. "My Struggle part 1" was okay, and "My Struggle part 2" was poor, but this was a different level.

    Not only was Part 3 bad, but it was boring, and too expository. In years gone by, the X-Files would spoon out information, never wanting to give away too much. Now, because there are only (supposedly) 9 episodes left, Carter tries to force a whole new narrative/conspiracy into two episodes. Now the characters sit in brightly lit rooms and have unendingly bad dialogue simply repeating what the other characters they are talking to already know. With rambling pointless voice overs and poorly shot, unexciting car "chases". Reyes might as well have been a brick wall or a cardboard cutout. Skinner was a badass for about 2 seconds but then gets nothing else to do. Plus the pacing and editing of the episode was so bad. If you are going to do an expository episode you should make it a bottle episode with an interesting (but cheap) framework - something like "Musings of a Cigarette Smoking Man" or Community's “Cooperative Calligraphy”. Scully was totally sidelined and even when she tried to have some agency, she just got sidelined again for no good reason.

    Though I will watch pretty much any X-Files they decide to put on the screen - because Mulder and Scully are/were some of the greatest characters put on screen in the 20th century and the show was so good back in the day - this one tested my dedication. Checking out the reviews online for the next 4 episodes (summary reviews are available) was the only thing that gave me hope and interest to keep going with season 11.

    If I thought last season demonstrated that Carter should not be writing any more episodes, this one just confirms it. And if there was a writer's room on this show, this episode gives no indication of it (minus the whole retcon of Part 2 being potentially someone telling Carter that part 2 was crap).

    Yeah, Mulder is an armed FBI agent. Pistol whip the guy or put a gun to his head or something! In earlier episodes, this would have happened, and then the guy would have turned out to be a super soldier or an ABH, would have kicked Mulder's ass immediately before being forced to jump out a window. More exciting and less throat-slashingly murder-y.
     
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  11. crookeddy

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    Series low ratings for this premiere. 5.15 million. Last season's finale was watched by 7.6.
     
  12. Naira

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    That was not so bad.

    First, let me say that I have given up all expectations of actually understanding what the hell the writers are thinking concerning the X-Files. I think I stopped somewhere around Season 7 and gave up all hope last year. Now, I am in just for the fun.

    That being said, I actually liked the main points, in the sense that maybe now they can write a couple of nice episodes making use of the new stuff.

    The Mustang thing was boring. Like, really boring.

    I also like Einstein and Miller. Let them take over the X-Files and have Mulder and Scully have a somewhat happy ending.
     
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  13. tharpdevenport

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    Aaaaahhhhh, yes it did, Chris. It was called season eight and season nine. Then there was also an other opportunity for a second movie, which was instead wasted on a deluxe two-hour TV movie in film form.
     
  14. Nakita Akita

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    OMG!
    I thought it was the 10 of Jan. :brickwall::censored:
    I missed it!:mad::sigh:
     
  15. Sto-Vo-Kory

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    Sorry to hear that. If you have Hulu, the premiere is available there right now. Hope you find a way to see it.
     
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  16. crookeddy

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    Here in 2018 "missing it" no longer carries the same weight as it used to :)
     
  17. JD

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    It should also be up on the free Fox app and website.
     
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    Word. The quick cuts and editing were just terrible and downright distracting.

    Thankfully next weeks episode is by a different writer and looks like it'll be good.
     
  19. Jayson1

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    I liked it. SInce I didn't much care for the arc stories from last season I don't mind if they changed it. In fact I kind of like the idea the aliens have lost interest in earth because of dwindling resources and climate-change. Why would they want a planet that we are destroying? I liked the idea of arc being brought down to a more personal level in dealing with William. Also I thought the fake moon landing was a fun gag. I do think we are suspose to find that kind of funny.

    As for the twist ending at the end with CMG being behind the
    creation of Scully and Mulder's baby I thought it was perfect. I know it was gross and disturbing but to me that also was the point We are supose to feel those emotions and anytime a tv show/movie can evoke a emotional reaction is a success IMO. Why do some people think that we are only supose to get positive and happy feelings from tv, especially when you talking about the villian?

    Frankly it might have been the worst thing we ever saw the CSM do and I like how even the man who has basically been the devil can show that he can even sink down even lower. It was a good thing to do because we are use to his old tricks and world manipulation after years and years of watching the show. That's still part of the character but you can tell that, when we first saw him you felt he was doing these evil things for some "greater good" bullshit but now you start to see just how selfish he really is and how it's all about his own desire for power and survival.


    Jason
     
  20. Forbin

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    Honestly, I've always liked the MotW shows and hated the mythology arcs. They were always so damn confusing.
     
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