I know the Dalek on location was a fan one.
You'd think by definition something everyone expects couldn't be a twist, especially gut-punching... Cos it's expected.
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You'd think by definition something everyone expects couldn't be a twist, especially gut-punching... Cos it's expected.
Wonderful episode. The story was on the light side but it was a lovely introduction for The Thirteenth Doctor and her companions Yaz, Ryan, and Graham (I'm not sold on the whole "Let's call them friends instead!" thing). I'm sorry that Grace died because I think she would've fit in quite nicely with The Doctor, but I suppose four companions is a bit much.
I love Segun Akinola's score because it felt far, far less bombastic and more subtle than most of Murray Gold's music. It complimented nicely with the episode, giving it just the right amount atmosphere.
I believe this is the first episode that never showed the opening sequence. Based on the closing credits, I'm sure we'll get a proper look the opening sequence next week. Considering how we didn't get the TARDIS and the episode ended on a cliffhanger without the companions actually committing to traveling with The Doctor, Chibnall didn't want to (re)introduce everything all at once.
I also believe this is the first Doctor introductory episode not to carry immediately after the regeneration since The Third Doctor. Instead, the episode took its time presenting the story through the eyes of the three companions before introducing The Thirteenth Doctor ten minutes in, which was a refreshing take on the introductory episode.
I particularly like how the episode took it's time to reflect on Grace's death even though we had only just met her. We got to know her well enough that I felt like the episode earned that denouement.
Am I right in remembering that The Thirteenth Doctor telling Yaz that she carries her family with her wherever she goes echoes what The Second Doctor said to Victoria in Tomb of the Cybermen? Or am I thinking of a different Doctor in another story?
I love Segun Akinola's score because it felt far, far less bombastic and more subtle than most of Murray Gold's music. It complimented nicely with the episode, giving it just the right amount atmosphere.
I believe this is the first episode that never showed the opening sequence. Based on the closing credits, I'm sure we'll get a proper look the opening sequence next week. Considering how we didn't get the TARDIS and the episode ended on a cliffhanger without the companions actually committing to traveling with The Doctor, Chibnall didn't want to (re)introduce everything all at once.
I also believe this is the first Doctor introductory episode not to carry immediately after the regeneration since The Third Doctor. Instead, the episode took its time presenting the story through the eyes of the three companions before introducing The Thirteenth Doctor ten minutes in, which was a refreshing take on the introductory episode.
I particularly like how the episode took it's time to reflect on Grace's death even though we had only just met her. We got to know her well enough that I felt like the episode earned that denouement.
Am I right in remembering that The Thirteenth Doctor telling Yaz that she carries her family with her wherever she goes echoes what The Second Doctor said to Victoria in Tomb of the Cybermen? Or am I thinking of a different Doctor in another story?
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Ugh that what very dull. I gave it a chance but this show is no longer for me and I can’t see it ever being for me as it is in it’s new realisation. My 20+ years with the Doctor is over (though I do have all the episodes up until today to fondly look back on...) I’ve had a great ride over the years and I hope that people continue to enjoy the show as much as I did... if people find something to like in this then fantastic. I bet people can’t wait to purchase the new soundtrack either...
A lot of accents in the episode sounded fake, many of the street scenes were more Barnsley side than Dore, like we might expect from the narrative. The train was clearly Mk2 carriages in Network South East Colours, though I didn’t recognise the number in the cab, but I’ll be looking in to it. Nice references to Sheffield Steel.
I’ll have to watch it again though, much if of was talked over by a small child remembering he used to have a cuddly tardis.
The biggest issue for me was the female doctor running, and leaping to a crane while wearing the shoes of a capalidi.
Overall I enjoyed it.
I’ll have to watch it again though, much if of was talked over by a small child remembering he used to have a cuddly tardis.
The biggest issue for me was the female doctor running, and leaping to a crane while wearing the shoes of a capalidi.
Overall I enjoyed it.
I hope that the story arc implied by the ending doesn’t carry on for too long.
I was underwhelmed in general, though Whittaker appears well-suited to the role. Undecided on the others, but we’ll see. Okayish episode overall. But then, quite possibly a generation of school kids will be having geekgasms about it tomorrow.
I was underwhelmed in general, though Whittaker appears well-suited to the role. Undecided on the others, but we’ll see. Okayish episode overall. But then, quite possibly a generation of school kids will be having geekgasms about it tomorrow.
I liked the the little piece of the main theme when the Doctor appeared on the train. Reminded me of Thor arriving in Wakanda.
Loved it. I wasn't fond of the Moffat era and gave up on it mid way through Capaldi. To me this was a return to the best of the RTD years. Ok the alien plot line wasn't amazing but the characters and script were fun and Whittaker nailed it.
Plus travelling by accident with a bunch of mates, to me much more engaging than the Impossible Girl.
Plus travelling by accident with a bunch of mates, to me much more engaging than the Impossible Girl.
I honestly don't know how to grade this episode...
Cinematography was excellent, little nods to the old music themes from the past and Jodie seems like a good fit for The Doctor. The show seems like it's designed solely for a new generation and not for someone like me who was brought into the franchise in 2005 (Never mind fans of Classic Who). The pacing was extremely slower than RTD/Moffat era, the music was very flat denying the show the energy and zip I am accustomed too and the humour was dialled down in parts to how the dialogue was delivered.
No look at the Tardis and it looks like were getting some sort of episode arced storyline about finding The Tardis, so the show feels incomplete at this point thus I can't grade it. Anyone else notice Graham said Aliens aren't real? did they just retool the entire show and throw out the last 13 years
This seems like a Netflix generation of Doctor Who, which I'm sure I can adapt too but the serious risk to this reboot esq gamble by the BBC, if you don't bring in a new audience and you alienate the existing base then your viewership bottoms out.
Cinematography was excellent, little nods to the old music themes from the past and Jodie seems like a good fit for The Doctor. The show seems like it's designed solely for a new generation and not for someone like me who was brought into the franchise in 2005 (Never mind fans of Classic Who). The pacing was extremely slower than RTD/Moffat era, the music was very flat denying the show the energy and zip I am accustomed too and the humour was dialled down in parts to how the dialogue was delivered.
No look at the Tardis and it looks like were getting some sort of episode arced storyline about finding The Tardis, so the show feels incomplete at this point thus I can't grade it. Anyone else notice Graham said Aliens aren't real? did they just retool the entire show and throw out the last 13 years
This seems like a Netflix generation of Doctor Who, which I'm sure I can adapt too but the serious risk to this reboot esq gamble by the BBC, if you don't bring in a new audience and you alienate the existing base then your viewership bottoms out.
Think it was the Gatwick Express stock on the Barry Heritage Railway.
We'll be inviting comments about the natural overlap between Who fans and trainspotters if this goes on.
I voted good. Apart from Eleventh Hour, I’ve rarely loved new Doctor’s debuts (liked them all for the most part) and while this wasn’t as good as it, it was probably at least as good as any of the others.
Unexpected and brave step to start off with the new characters rather than the Doctor (especially given the episode title) but it worked.
New characters were plenty likeable and I was sad that Grace got offed.
Decent enough plot and the baddie will hopefully have had a few kids watching from behind the sofa.
As for the main woman: I thought she was a mix of Tennant and Eccleston in her debut (possibly mostly the accent with the latter). I was surprised there wasn’t more of Capaldi in her performance, given that new Doctors often seem to have much of their immediate predecessor in their debut outing. My only gripe is that she does a slightly mugging/grimacing thing with her face at times that’s reminisfent of Tennant at his most OTT but maybe that’s just me.
Great ending - really looking forward to seeing what happens next, which is probably as much as a writer can aim for.
Unexpected and brave step to start off with the new characters rather than the Doctor (especially given the episode title) but it worked.
New characters were plenty likeable and I was sad that Grace got offed.
Decent enough plot and the baddie will hopefully have had a few kids watching from behind the sofa.
As for the main woman: I thought she was a mix of Tennant and Eccleston in her debut (possibly mostly the accent with the latter). I was surprised there wasn’t more of Capaldi in her performance, given that new Doctors often seem to have much of their immediate predecessor in their debut outing. My only gripe is that she does a slightly mugging/grimacing thing with her face at times that’s reminisfent of Tennant at his most OTT but maybe that’s just me.
Great ending - really looking forward to seeing what happens next, which is probably as much as a writer can aim for.
Good - got some growing pains to sort out but I enjoyed it, and Jodie Whittaker did a good job. Needs a bit of work to nail those speeches but a really good start. Companions were pleasant enough and well acted but they seem a bit... the same. To justify three of them, I hope they become more different in views and approach as we progress.
Solid story, lifted from many a sci-fi Hunter/Prey arc but done fairly well, and with a decent bounty hunter species and more darkness than I was expecting. Perhaps more than was wise at the end, as to avoid the new series starting on something of a downer, they seemed to underplay the emotion.
The whole thing is clearly channeling the Tennant era, as suggested they are intending to go back to try to recapture their glory days. Hopefully, the good stories return too.
Solid story, lifted from many a sci-fi Hunter/Prey arc but done fairly well, and with a decent bounty hunter species and more darkness than I was expecting. Perhaps more than was wise at the end, as to avoid the new series starting on something of a downer, they seemed to underplay the emotion.
The whole thing is clearly channeling the Tennant era, as suggested they are intending to go back to try to recapture their glory days. Hopefully, the good stories return too.
I know I'm generalising, just a feeling I had but with time to adjust, I'll be fine in the long run.
The new season is deliberately structured to help introduce new fans to the show (much like "The Eleventh Hour") while still maintaining the Doctor Who spirit. I, for one, am glad nothing is the same and that things changed. Would get awfully boring pretty quickly if it kept doing the same things as before.I honestly don't know how to grade this episode...
Cinematography was excellent, little nods to the old music themes from the past and Jodie seems like a good fit for The Doctor. The show seems like it's designed solely for a new generation and not for someone like me who was brought into the franchise in 2005 (Never mind fans of Classic Who). The pacing was extremely slower than RTD/Moffat era, the music was very flat denying the show the energy and zip I am accustomed too and the humour was dialled down in parts to how the dialogue was delivered.
No look at the Tardis and it looks like were getting some sort of episode arced storyline about finding The Tardis, so the show feels incomplete at this point thus I can't grade it. Anyone else notice Graham said Aliens aren't real? did they just retool the entire show and throw out the last 13 years
This seems like a Netflix generation of Doctor Who, which I'm sure I can adapt too but the serious risk to this reboot esq gamble by the BBC, if you don't bring in a new audience and you alienate the existing base then your viewership bottoms out.
As for the pacing, I love the far less frantic pace of the previous years, which was one of my biggest criticisms of the Davies years. Moffat was better with the pacing but his era had plenty of frantic moments, too.