The weekly WATCHMEN episode sum-up
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I vaguely remember reading about it online a few years ago. But it’s really not something that’s discussed in the US, especially not in schools. We tend to avoid discussing such things, which is why history tends to repeat itself here and we are unable to properly deal with our sins as a country. We much rather ignore them and focus on the good because it’s just easier for the majority who don’t want to feel bad because they assume they’re being blamed somehow.
Here are some more shameful incidences in American history that the history books ignore...
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/19...violence-america-20191024.html?outputType=amp
And a first-hand account of Tulsa in 1921...
https://slate.com/culture/2019/10/watchmen-b-c-franklin-tulsa-massacre-account-full-text.html
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/19...violence-america-20191024.html?outputType=amp
And a first-hand account of Tulsa in 1921...
https://slate.com/culture/2019/10/watchmen-b-c-franklin-tulsa-massacre-account-full-text.html
It was only a couple of years ago when Coulson Whiteheads's novel won the Pulitzer that I started reading into a lot of these. There was also a great article about 20th century black music, including blues tunes and songs like Strange Fruit, and their place in U.S. history but I can't seem to find the link now.
I think one of the articles has some misleading info. One of the headlines has to do with the "The Wilmington "Riot" and the Rise of Jim Crow", which makes it sound like Jim Crow laws started in1898. In reality, Jim Crow laws had been in force for some time before 1898.
They were enacted as a result of the second and most devastating betrayal of black people by the American government since the countries' inception, and it's acceptance of slavery. The Compromise of 1877 effectively ended Reconstruction and officially gave southerners the right to 'deal with black people the way they wanted' with no interference.
Since it appears reparations are being paid to black people in Watchmen, maybe Reconstruction never ended and southerners were forced to allow black people to live peacefully. Also, maybe we'll find that there is a direct familial connection between members of the 7th Kavalry and the Tulsa massacre perpetrators.
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I hope not. Because that’s the dangerous bit (as it were) in the story.
Atm we know that a couple of the things the 7th kalvary believe in are true.
I believe the general consensus is that the point of divergence in the Watchmen universe occurs in the year 1938.
Yep - when the cops start using costumes/wearing masks.
From the Watchmen Wiki (I don't know how much it is authoritative...)
Watchmen Chronology
1938
August 14
Jon Osterman gets a clock as a birthday present from [11]
October 6
Hooded Justice stops a gang who attempted to steal and abuse a couple.[17]
October 13
Hooded Justice stops a supermarket robbery, and inspires Hollis Mason to become the first Nite Owl.[17]
The above is possibly the "point of divergence" between our universe and the Watchmen universe; HJ's appearance is the earliest known historical event that didn't occur in our world, and caused the appearance of the other masked adventurers.
Watchmen Chronology
1938
August 14
Jon Osterman gets a clock as a birthday present from [11]
October 6
Hooded Justice stops a gang who attempted to steal and abuse a couple.[17]
October 13
Hooded Justice stops a supermarket robbery, and inspires Hollis Mason to become the first Nite Owl.[17]
The above is possibly the "point of divergence" between our universe and the Watchmen universe; HJ's appearance is the earliest known historical event that didn't occur in our world, and caused the appearance of the other masked adventurers.
- Mason as Nite Owl fights at Gotham Opera House[15]
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Right-wing trolls are review bombing Watchmen.
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Caught it finally.
It's good. Interesting world building, great actors. I like that it's not set in New York or some other big city. Enough happens that I'm engaged yet not overloaded with plot. I was more engaged with this than I was with the first episode of The Boys.
And speaking of the Boys... overall I liked it, but, I was a little bored with its deconstructions... been there done that, and Watchman was a big part of that. But, what I like about Watchman the show, it's not deconstructing superheroes...at least not directly. We're not making fun of Aquaman talking to animals and how Superman is really just Ubermensch. The show isn't trodding that well tread area.
So. Good job, HBO.
Though.. that ending. GR.
It's good. Interesting world building, great actors. I like that it's not set in New York or some other big city. Enough happens that I'm engaged yet not overloaded with plot. I was more engaged with this than I was with the first episode of The Boys.
And speaking of the Boys... overall I liked it, but, I was a little bored with its deconstructions... been there done that, and Watchman was a big part of that. But, what I like about Watchman the show, it's not deconstructing superheroes...at least not directly. We're not making fun of Aquaman talking to animals and how Superman is really just Ubermensch. The show isn't trodding that well tread area.
So. Good job, HBO.
Though.. that ending. GR.
Original Silk Spectre might not be alive anymore, but her daughter is. If she told her daughter who Hooded Justice really was, then Agent Lorie Blake is the last one to know.
If the police chief was Dan Dreiberg, then it will be very personal for Laurie Blake.
Now I want to know more about Pirate Jenny.
I don’t think for sure he was, but it sorted being a thought, and then I saw someone else posit the same idea on reddit.
There’s an unnamed mask flying Archie though.
I think young fellow read the ‘watch over this boy’ note wrong though...he thought it was a note for him about the baby, when it was a note to an adult to watch over him. I have a feeling that will be important.
What?
Someone will have to explain to me the point of the play where the actor was actually incinerated. Is that something you need to know the source material to get?
Someone will have to explain to me the point of the play where the actor was actually incinerated. Is that something you need to know the source material to get?
It was a reenactment of the origin of Dr. Manhatten.
Haven’t seen ep 2 yet, but it sounds like a lot of stuff is going to be doing some interesting flip-flops. Given what I have heard, I have a strong feeling there’s gonna be some uncomfortable ‘both sidesing’ going on in the narrative (which was already growing there.)
It’s certainly very interesting. Even the police and guns bit in ep1. Speaking as someone familiar with American gun and cop culture through its media and news, and from a culture where there is *heavy* gun control, and only *some* police armed, it’s interesting to watch this critique involved.
I have a feeling this version, much as the original, is going to have a lot of people taking what they want from it.
It’s certainly very interesting. Even the police and guns bit in ep1. Speaking as someone familiar with American gun and cop culture through its media and news, and from a culture where there is *heavy* gun control, and only *some* police armed, it’s interesting to watch this critique involved.
I have a feeling this version, much as the original, is going to have a lot of people taking what they want from it.
Yeah, but what is the point of having the actor be murdered for real, is that just establishing how cold and evil the guy is?
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