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The weekly WATCHMEN episode sum-up

So far, it’s not about racial relations, except the actual history of the U.S...
I didn’t realise that thing at the beginning was a racial thing. I just thought people went crazy and started attacking one another. Maybe from some super villain attack.
 
I didn’t realise that thing at the beginning was a racial thing. I just thought people went crazy and started attacking one another. Maybe from some super villain attack.
:cardie:

Assuming you're serious, you should probably know that this is a portrayal of actual events that actually happened in Tulsa 1921. The fact that this isn't widespread knowledge taught in history classes is a travesty.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/10/21/hbos-watchmen-depicts-tulsa-race-massacre-that-was-all-too-real-hundreds-died/?outputType=amp

ETA: having seen your above post after posting mine, I understand how you haven't heard of it, but you should still read the article I posted as it's very illuminating.
 
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I'm American born and raised and I'd never heard of the massacre in Tulsa until I was reading an article about the show last week.
 
Sadly many Americans aren't either.
And not actually because of their disinterest, laziness, or anything of that kind, either, apparently (unlike other things that actually are taught in school). From @Turtletrekker's Washington Post article:

For nearly 100 years, the truth of what happened in Tulsa was kept out of textbooks and only whispered about among survivors.​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...massacre-that-was-all-too-real-hundreds-died/

I'd never heard of it, until now. :shrug: :(
 
Watchmen Getting Review Bombed for Being “Too Woke”? Do Y’all Even Know Watchmen?

Oh, dear, people are unhappy about their comics being too left-leaning again.

The CW’s Batwoman was initially getting review bombed by a bunch of people (because … women and gays? Not in my Gotham!) and now that trend has continued with HBO’s Watchmen series, which premiered this weekend. According to CBR, the show has a 93% Fresh rating from critics but is scored at 49% by audiences. Of course, there are those with legitimate criticism of the series—as I have my own—but many other complaints are about the show’s perceived “politically correct” narrative and it being “too woke,” upset that this new series has a very political stance.
(article continues on the linked site)
 
There’s tons of watchmen ties in it.
In terms of Veidt...well, (a) It looks like veidt and (b) we literally pan across the snow to his little green reclaimed pastures. (Also we see footage of Manhattan building on mars, during the speech about eggs and wall building.)
I caught the footage of Mars, but at the beginning of the Irons scene I guess I was getting a snack or something. I enjoyed the episode for the most part, but want to see where it is going first. Most HBO shows take a few episodes to really get going.
 
I caught the footage of Mars, but at the beginning of the Irons scene I guess I was getting a snack or something. I enjoyed the episode for the most part, but want to see where it is going first. Most HBO shows take a few episodes to really get going.

The snow was a bit blink and miss it.
 
I grew up in Muskogee Oklahoma which is 45 minutes away from Tulsa, and lived in Tulsa from about 18-24. I learned about this about 5 years ago. Our Oklahoma and American history textbooks (around 1987) were so old they did not contain the moon landing.
 
I watched this last night. Not sure what I think about it yet, but one thing I can say for certain. Jeremy Irons was some DAMN FINE casting as old Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias. He literally looks like Matthew Goode aged thirty years.

Oddly enough, this is the second time they’ve played the same role. Irons became famous playing Charles Ryder in the 1981 tv adaptation of Brideshead Revisited, while Goode played the same role in the 2008 film version.
 
Wow, that was a great first episode. Fantastic bit of world-building and mystery-starting.

Can't wait to watch more.
 
I see the theory that Dan Dreiberg was the Don Johnson character is gathering steam in some quarters. It has some merit.
Safe money of Lou Gosset jnr being hooded justice tbh.
 
So far, it’s not about racial relations, except the actual history of the U.S...
You're not wrong, but I'd say more specifically, at least from the first episode, the show is about terrorism. I was was well aware of the Tulsa Massacre and was rather shocked to see it depicted in a TV show given how so much of the history of racial violence inflicted on black people has been suppressed. What happened in Tulsa was just one of MANY attacks of this sort by white people upon black peolple in American history.

I've read Watchmen and saw the movie and loved both but I knew nothing about this show before watching it. I mean nothing. I really liked this first episode. Because of the inclusion of the Tulsa incident, it took me a minute to understand that this was an alternate universe.

That was Night Owl's ship that Don Johnson was using wasn't it? I also thought the 7th Kavalry were making shrapnel for a bomb, but after reading some posts, maybe there was more to it. I'm also interested in whether or not we are going to be told anything about Night's children and uncle being white. No explanation is required of course, they might choose to "Spielberg it", you know, Lost World style. :)

Some serious acting talent here, with 3 Oscar winners in Regina King, Lou Gossett, and and Jeremy Irons.

I did wonder about HBO's motivations with this show. I know that some time ago, they were considering another alternate universe show where the south won the civil war. I could never figure out who the audience would have been for that show.

Now, here is Watchmen with some alternate history involving terrorism emanating from racial issues going back to the start of America and exacerbated by the south losing the Slave Owner Revolt War (civil war).

Seems like HBO was bound and determined to produce a show that explored these themes under cover of a faux universe. It'll be interesting to see where this goes.
 
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Not sure what to think yet, they seem to be working on a slow burn with the first episode more about world-building than anything else.

But it has me interested enough to come back next week.
 
That was Night Owl's ship that Don Johnson was using wasn't it? .
It sure looked like it. The controls and readouts, even the flame thrower button look copied directly from the comic.

Is Tulsa the metropolis of post-squid America? Why is it so important. If they did arrest Dreiburg and took his owl-ship, or made copies of it, why is it in Tulsa or does every PD get one? Lots of questions.
 
I could never figure out who the audience would have been for that show.

Alternate history fans. I would've watched such a show. I've read the Harry Turtledove alternate history books on the subject.
 
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