The Way to Eden..I just noticed something.

[Mr Nighttime]

Probably been discussed before...but dimwit me, I just noticed something silly. (Not the reversed shot of Kirk..which I am surprised they never fixed in this remastered series).

So..we learn that all the plant life was full of acid. Deadly and corrosive and McCoy says their clothes should protect them for a little bit (which seemed wrong considering the acid fried Chekov's hand really well in seconds). So did it make sense upon discovering the shuttlecraft for Kirk and the rest to start hauling out those barefoot and burned hippies? Shouldnt they have left them in the ship where the danger was lessened?

 

[Therin of Andor]

the reversed shot of Kirk..which I am surprised they never fixed in this remastered series

Reversed shots aren't usually errors. They happen in the editing room, when a reaction shot or entrance needs to be in the opposite direction than what was actually shot. I suppose they could have flipped only the insignia for HD, but that would have been expensive to track through a scene. But the editor needed Kirk to be facing in the direction he's going.

 

[Christopher]

So..we learn that all the plant life was full of acid. Deadly and corrosive and McCoy says their clothes should protect them for a little bit (which seemed wrong considering the acid fried Chekov's hand really well in seconds). So did it make sense upon discovering the shuttlecraft for Kirk and the rest to start hauling out those barefoot and burned hippies? Shouldnt they have left them in the ship where the danger was lessened?

I seem to recall the ground around the shuttlecraft being bare of plant life.

 

[Shatmandu]

So did it make sense upon discovering the shuttlecraft for Kirk and the rest to start hauling out those barefoot and burned hippies? Shouldnt they have left them in the ship where the danger was lessened?

Kirk was being cruel, forcing them to burn more. To teach them a lesson about being filthy hippies.

Joe, white

 

[Gil T.Azell]

Probably been discussed before...but dimwit me, I just noticed something silly. (Not the reversed shot of Kirk..which I am surprised they never fixed in this remastered series).

Reversed shot of Kirk?
I never noticed, is there a screen shot?
(not that this was a favorite episode of mine, though I did find Chekov's ex Girl friend kinda hot, but couldn't stand the actor who play the cult leader.)

 

[TIN_MAN]

Also, how is a viable Earth-like ecosystem supposed to evolve on a planet with no animals or insects? What produces the carbon dioxide for the plants to breath, or how do all those flowers get pollinated without insects etc.?

 

[Cakes488]

Yeah you know what I noticed about this Ep that I've just fully appreciated when they ran it this past Saturday. That one hippie dude...he's got some pretty nice titties. Yeah I wasn't even making eye contact with him (for good reason)...just starin at the titties.

 

[Doug Otte]

So..we learn that all the plant life was full of acid. Deadly and corrosive and McCoy says their clothes should protect them for a little bit (which seemed wrong considering the acid fried Chekov's hand really well in seconds). So did it make sense upon discovering the shuttlecraft for Kirk and the rest to start hauling out those barefoot and burned hippies? Shouldnt they have left them in the ship where the danger was lessened?

I seem to recall the ground around the shuttlecraft being bare of plant life.

No; it there was grass all around, and that gaffe has really bugged me over the years.

Doug

 

[M'Sharak]

Probably been discussed before...but dimwit me, I just noticed something silly. (Not the reversed shot of Kirk..which I am surprised they never fixed in this remastered series).

Reversed shot of Kirk?
I never noticed, is there a screen shot?

TrekCore is still having problems, but I'll copy/paste this, from IMDb:

Miscellaneous: Twice in the show, a shot of Kirk is reversed (presumably to make him face the right side of the screen) The first time he is facing Sulu in a corridor of the Enterprise, the second he is looking where Dr. Severin had just run on the planet Eden. Note the appearance of the Star Fleet emblem on the right side of his shirt, rather than the usual left side.

(not that this was a favorite episode of mine, though I did find Chekov's ex Girl friend kinda hot, but couldn't stand the actor who play the cult leader.)

Sevrin the character is a bit creepy and wild-eyed -- he's supposed to be insane, remember -- but I don't think there's anything wrong with Skip Homeier as an actor. Did you also dislike him as Melakon in "Patterns of Force"?

 

[Therin of Andor]

did it make sense upon discovering the shuttlecraft for Kirk and the rest to start hauling out those barefoot and burned hippies?

The soles of barefooted hippies are tough! From all that lifetime of barefooting, dontcha know?

 

[GSchnitzer]

So here's the first flipped image (when Kirk speaks to Sulu in the corridor outside of Sickbay):

And here's the second flipped image--when Kirk watches Dr. Sevrin run off to camera right to eat the apple. Evidently, the editor and director wanted (but didn't get) a reaction shot of Kirk watching Sevrin run off to camera right. So they reused an earlier shot of Kirk looking off to camera left and just flipped it:

And here's the shot from a minute or so earlier ("Bones, will our clothes protect us?")

And in case anyone is interested, the passengers of the Galileo II are hand carried over the dirt around the shuttlecraft landing area and are placed on top of two large, nearby, inorganic rocks:

 

[Myasishchev]

Also, how is a viable Earth-like ecosystem supposed to evolve on a planet with no animals or insects? What produces the carbon dioxide for the plants to breath, or how do all those flowers get pollinated without insects etc.?

In Star Trek, there is no such thing as an oxygen cycle!

Kind of like how all those totally barren planets with no life still had a breathable O2 content in their air, which is chemically troublesome.

 

[Gil T.Azell]

(not that this was a favorite episode of mine, though I did find Chekov's ex Girl friend kinda hot, but couldn't stand the actor who play the cult leader.)

Sevrin the character is a bit creepy and wild-eyed -- he's supposed to be insane, remember -- but I don't think there's anything wrong with Skip Homeier as an actor. Did you also dislike him as Melakon in "Patterns of Force"?

He was better as Melakon.

So here's the first flipped image (when Kirk speaks to Sulu in the corridor outside of Sickbay):

And here's the second flipped image--when Kirk watches Dr. Sevrin run off to camera right to eat the apple. Evidently, the editor and director wanted (but didn't get) a reaction shot of Kirk watching Sevrin run off to camera right. So they reused an earlier shot of Kirk looking off to camera left and just flipped it:

And here's the shot from a minute or so earlier ("Bones, will our clothes protect us?")

And in case anyone is interested, the passengers of the Galileo II are hand carried over the dirt around the shuttlecraft landing area and are placed on top of two large, nearby, inorganic rocks:

Thank you, and I did notice the dirt.

 

[Doug Otte]

And in case anyone is interested, the passengers of the Galileo II are hand carried over the dirt around the shuttlecraft landing area and are placed on top of two large, nearby, inorganic rocks:

Thanks, Greg. Well, there's yet another example of my faulty memory.

Doug

 

[Hambone]

I just noticed something.

Running Spock is back! There he goes!

 

[Grant]

Even so, why take them out of the shuttle at all. What purpose does it serve? And who says the soil itself isn't somewhat acidic?

Also not all plants need insects to polinate them.

 

[GSchnitzer]

Even so, why take them out of the shuttle at all. What purpose does it serve? And who says the soil itself isn't somewhat acidic?

Also not all plants need insects to polinate them.

Right. Some plants are pollinated via the wind and some aquatic plants are pollinated, well, via water. These two kinds of plants need no organisms to work as a pollinators.

The script actually did originally have much of the action at the end inside the shuttlecraft. I'm sure that by the time of the Revised Final Draft was finished, someone cleverly realized that trying to pack the six Space Hippies and the four Enterprise crew members into the shuttlecraft (along with a film crew) would have been crazy.

I think Kirk was probably pretty smart. With the crew nearly killed with the subsonics of Dr. Sevrin, I'd suspect that Kirk might well have suspected that the shuttlecraft could have been boobytrapped somehow. (More subsonics? A bomb of some kind? Dr. Sevrin seems perfectly capable of sacrificing his followers if it suited his needs.) I think Kirk would have been foolish to take the bait and charge into the shuttlecraft. I'd bring them out in the open rather than go into the enclosed space, in light of Dr. Sevrin's earlier crazy actions--even if it comes at the cost of the Hippies' feet (which, with the dirt and rocks, it didn't).

 

[Maurice]

Also, how is a viable Earth-like ecosystem supposed to evolve on a planet with no animals or insects? What produces the carbon dioxide for the plants to breath, or how do all those flowers get pollinated without insects etc.?

It's an alien planet with alien plants. Life tends to evolve to fill in available niches. There could well be "plants" that produce carbon dioxide and others that make oxygen. And even plants on earth don't require animals to help them...as the common dandelion illustrates.