The Walking Dead

[shivkala]

Not surprised you think Daryl is cool. His fanbase has really grown over the years.

So much so that the actress who played Andrea got death threats when Andrea shot Daryl in season 2.

So, can we use this thread to discuss season 4 now?

Walking Dead Season 4 Spoilers

We keep hearing stuff like this:

They’ve introduced a way to make zombies scary again, and they’re terrifying. The new threat is just unreal. I can’t of course tell you what that is, but it’s brilliant writing.

Which makes me worry, as I've been let down before by hype. This as well as "Clear" from season 3 have me hopeful that Gimple is going to do well by us:

"The DNA is all in how people have died in the comic; it's always served the story. If it's just serving as a shock, it's a failure. It has to mean something. That doesn't mean it can't be completely out of the blue because that happens sometimes in this world," he said.

 

[Dream]

Not surprised you think Daryl is cool. His fanbase has really grown over the years.

So much so that the actress who played Andrea got death threats when Andrea shot Daryl in season 2.

Which is really silly. Makes me think much of TWD audience is a bunch of kids. I heard they actually took and released pictures of the two actors being friendly towards each other, to bring down the hate.

So, can we use this thread to discuss season 4 now?

I started a topic to talk about season 4 a while back

I think everyone is just waiting for the season 4 trailer at this point!

 

[Trekker4747]

I've no problem with S4 spoilers/discussion.

On the marathon last weekend I enjoyed some of the BTS stuff with Kevin Smith (even if some of it was sort of spoilery to someone who hadn't seen S3 yet but spoilers rarely bug me.)

I doubt the bandanna mask is any indication of harm coming to Daryl. As a general rule on TV they don't like covering actors faces/mouths. Not sure what the new threat with the zombies/Walkers could be but hopefully it'll be something that makes sense and comes naturally and not that all of the zombies suddenly develop a new ability or something.

I DO hope the show movies around more out and away from the prison and off to see more of the country to see what else is going on out there. Some of the best scenes in the series have been when the characters were outside of the camp/farmhouse of OH MY GOD MAKE IT END!!! and prison.

Which is really silly. Makes me think much of TWD audience is a bunch of kids. I heard they actually took and released pictures of the two actors being friendly towards each other, to bring down the hate.

And Andrea shooting Daryl was by and large an accident. Sure Shane said he was going to handle it, Hershel had said he didn't want guns used on his property/wanted to handle the Walkers and she fired when it should have been clear to her Rick, Shane and the others had stood down their defenses and were talking to the zombie. With the sun in her scope she hardly was in a good position to fire.

But the bullet just grazed Daryl and he was more injured by his time in the ravine than Andrea's stupid shot.

I do think the "redemption of Merle" worked pretty well in S4 and made his change more impactful and well reacted by Daryl.

 

[shivkala]

I was not a fan of Andrea's character, she just never clicked with me, but I certainly didn't hate her for shooting Daryl.

I wonder/hope some of what they're doing with the zombies this season is actually paying attention to the zombie gunk, gore, juices, etc. By the end of season 4, there were times they were covered with that stuff and just carrying on casually. In season 1, they made it a point, when they were covering themselves to get out of Atlanta, not to let it touch their skin. I don't mind if it gets on them, but if they have an open wound, or it gets into the nose, mouth, ear, etc., then it should have some effect.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Not surprised you think Daryl is cool. His fanbase has really grown over the years.

So much so that the actress who played Andrea got death threats when Andrea shot Daryl in season 2.

Which is really silly. Makes me think much of TWD audience is a bunch of kids. I heard they actually took and released pictures of the two actors being friendly towards each other, to bring down the hate.

This happens with all types of shows, from Soap Operas to Science Fiction. There are a lot of crazies out there.

 

[JD]

I've no problem with S4 spoilers/discussion.



I DO hope the show movies around more out and away from the prison and off to see more of the country to see what else is going on out there. Some of the best scenes in the series have been when the characters were outside of the camp/farmhouse of OH MY GOD MAKE IT END!!! and prison.

They do move on eventually in the comics, but they seem to only using some of the basic ideas from the comics, so I don't know how much we can use that to guess what's going to happen in the show.

 

[Dream]

I DO hope the show movies around more out and away from the prison and off to see more of the country to see what else is going on out there.

There won't be too much moving around. AMC is incredibly cheap with this show, which is why seasons will always be half indoors and half outdoors at this point. Don't expect the multiple new locations like how it was in season one.

 

[JD]

Really? I would think with the success of the show they'd be pumping millions into it.

 

[Pavonis]

Does AMC have millions to pump into it? It gets great ratings, over 10 million viewers sometimes, but it's still a non-network show. Besides, if the ratings are good without spending extra money on new locations and sets, why cut into the profits?

 

[Dream]

Really? I would think with the success of the show they'd be pumping millions into it.

This is an article explains how AMC treats TWD.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/walking-dead-what-happened-fired-221449

AMC's mentality is "Get it done by spending a little money as possible". That probably explains why two showrunners have already been fired, with the third taking over for season four.

 

[DarthTom]

The article points out that they still budget $2.75 million per episode. While it's been a while since West Wing was on and it had IMO a higher production costs and bigger stars than TWD - West Wing was also $2.7 million per episode.

My point is that is a lot of money for relative no-name stars on TWD.

 

[Dream]

The article points out that they still budget $2.75 million per episode. While it's been a while since West Wing was on and it had IMO a higher production costs and bigger stars than TWD - West Wing was also $2.7 million per episode.

My point is that is a lot of money for relative no-name stars on TWD.

TWW ended 6 years ago. I expect making a hour long drama to cost more nowadays because of inflation and raising salaries.

Mad Men, which is considered expensive and also on the same network as TWD, costs 2.5 million per episode to make.

Breaking Bad reportedly costs $3 million per episode.

Game of Thrones costs 6 million per episode.

 

[JD]

I can understand wanting to keep the costs down, but IMO on a show like this you've got to be willing to put up a fair amount of money if you want to keep people coming back.

 

[Trekker4747]

Considering the ratings the show gets in key demographics, resulting in what they can charge for ad space you'd think they'd be throwing money at this show to allow it to expand and continue.

 

[Pavonis]

How much more can the audience for TWD expand, realistically? They're already getting incredible ratings, comparable to network shows. Will throwing more money at the production reliably increase viewership? I suspect that everyone who is into TWD is already watching. If they're not, no amount of money will attract their attention now.

 

[trekkiebaggio]

Here's an interview with Robert Kirkman where he talks about some plans for the upcoming season.

There were a couple of quotes which piqued my interest -

We're telling completely different stories. While the Governor is still out there and still a threat, we're going to see him in a new light and he won't appear until we least expect it. I don't think people are really going to be able to anticipate what we do with the Governor; it's going to be radically different. Once that story unfolds over the course of this season, people will see this is a very different story from season three and we are breaking some new ground with these characters.

On closer adaptation: "We are definitely going in some new directions and this will continue to be a different take on the material form the comics but there will possibly be some scenes that are a little bit closer to the comic than we've done in the past. Season four probably has the most number of scenes that are adapted directly from the comic series or very close to what we did.

So I'm wondering -

Spoiler: Comic spoilers

Will the Governor become a cannibal?

 

[Vendikarr]

Spoiler: Comic spoilers

Will the Governor become a cannibal?

Spoiler: Comic spoilers

That's where I thought they'd take him. AMC doesn't want them spending all that money on location shooting, so I would imagine the cannibal storyline comes to Rick, instead of the other way around.

 

[sojourner]

"he won't appear until we least expect it"

Except that now that he's said this, everyone will expect it.

 

[Pavonis]

But when will we least expect it but when we now most expect it! To paraphrase Dwight Schrute of The Office, he'll appear when we most medium suspect it.

 

[Karuna]

The good thing about a lot of good shows is the way you get the familiar crowd thrown into a something completely new almost every episode.

It'd be nice if they could pick up the pace in some way, introduce a plot device that increased the rate of change in certain ways.

As fascinating as the prison and etc are, i want to see more of post apocalyptic zombie land.

Didn't they spend months on the road before they got to the prison though, during the season break? That's such a pity, that kind of thing would have been the most fun.