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The Walking Dead Season 5

the ASZ are hiding something....yeah, actually... 2 things. 1) There's some domestic abuse going on (being hidden, just like it would in a pre-apocalypse suburb and 2) They leave their people behind. It's their current belief system, but something they aren't proud of.

All perfectly reasonable things to hide but nothing that on discovery would make the audience think......wow, that was unexpected.

The speculation and predictions you see on threads like this are always more meaningful than that though. A whole week of.....Theres something off about Noah....then blah, no there isn't. I think the fact that people are aware of the comics may be fuelling some of it

If I clicked on page 14 of this thread, I bet I'd find tons of discussions about "what this means" and "is he hiding something" and so on......and I bet all of them came to nothing

And Glenn's bat might be foreshadowing (for either finale or season 6) ...though i hope not

That's another thing. Foreshadowing what?

Have they not demonstrated on numerous occasions that they are more than happy to abandon the comics (especially for the big calls) and then rub it in the faces of people who thought they knew what was coming

That's why I, personally don't believe talk of the comics should be considered to be spoilers
 
The fact that it's far more likely is why I think it's not as clear-cut as you do. Like I've said, we've already explored this territory before on this show. Why bother going through the same thing again?

Well the difference this time is the impact it will likely have on Rick and his group's status in the town, when they decide to intervene.

Regardless of what an abusive prick Pete might be at home, as the town doctor he probably still has a lot of friends who might not like these strangers dishing out some justice on him. Which will just make things a whole lot more tense and unfriendly for our people... and which will probably be one of the main causes of the conflict we see in the finale.

Not to mention the way the abuse story suggests pretty clearly that life in Alexandria is not nearly as wonderful and ideal as it's made out to be. And that this "new society" is starting out with a lot of the same problems as the old.
 
Have they not demonstrated on numerous occasions that they are more than happy to abandon the comics (especially for the big calls) and then rub it in the faces of people who thought they knew what was coming

That's why I, personally don't believe talk of the comics should be considered to be spoilers

I think they did for the first few seasons, but Scott Gimple seems inclined to push things closer back toward the comics. Like even though Andrea isn't around anymore, Sasha seems to be taking over a lot of her roles. And Bob died the same way Dale did. Terminus was new, but still featured the same old cannibals. The prison was still taken down by the Governor. A lot of these things still remain the same, even though the little details vary. The incident with Lucille could still very well happen as it did in the comics.
 
I'm starting to think that people's inability not to speculate has retrospectively made them feel that there have been twists. I'm as guilty of doing it as the next guy. The show hints at things but usually follows quite the unsurprising route

- why didn't Aaron eat the applesauce, what's he hiding....um nothing
- look, Glenn is holding a baseball bat....that means something....doubt it
- why won't Deanna let them go in the clock tower....what's she hiding up there.....um nothing
- the people of the ASZ are hiding something....not really
- Noah is hiding something.......nope
- the gun in the blender meant something....nope
- Gabriel isn't a real minister, he's hiding something.....no, he's just unhinged

- Jessie is actually the abuser.....nah, doubt it

And so on

Take a look at that death list I posted the other day. The series constantly hints...or beats viewers over the head with a character suddenly getting some time to shine, or some moment of hope, only to die soon afterward. In that case, the hints go somewhere we have been. Probably too many times.
 
Definitely a gruesome way for Noah to go... The look on his face? Gave me a shudder...

But his death scene makes me question something... Yes he was bitten and it's not hard to imagine being able to bite through flesh. However, the speed of his evisceration makes me wonder how the hell the walkers are able to tear into him like that... Especially now that they are far more soupy than they were at the beginning of the ZA... If one merely needs one good stomp on their heads to turn them to mush, how are the walkers able to tear through living flesh with such speed and ferocity?

Granted... Suspension of disbelief and it's just a show... But still...

Very bony fingers. ;)
 
Definitely a gruesome way for Noah to go... The look on his face? Gave me a shudder...

But his death scene makes me question something... Yes he was bitten and it's not hard to imagine being able to bite through flesh. However, the speed of his evisceration makes me wonder how the hell the walkers are able to tear into him like that... Especially now that they are far more soupy than they were at the beginning of the ZA... If one merely needs one good stomp on their heads to turn them to mush, how are the walkers able to tear through living flesh with such speed and ferocity?

Granted... Suspension of disbelief and it's just a show... But still...

Very bony fingers. ;)
Like Fondue Forks?
 
Definitely a gruesome way for Noah to go... The look on his face? Gave me a shudder...

But his death scene makes me question something... Yes he was bitten and it's not hard to imagine being able to bite through flesh. However, the speed of his evisceration makes me wonder how the hell the walkers are able to tear into him like that... Especially now that they are far more soupy than they were at the beginning of the ZA... If one merely needs one good stomp on their heads to turn them to mush, how are the walkers able to tear through living flesh with such speed and ferocity?

Granted... Suspension of disbelief and it's just a show... But still...

Very bony fingers. ;)
Like Fondue Forks?
Even thought the rotating door window is cover with blood. You can tell that the hand that ripped Noah face off fingers aren't bony. It look like a strong meaty hand.

http://screencapped.net/tv/thewalkingdead/displayimage.php?album=1485&pid=1696513#top_display_media
 
This is the nature of the Zombie Apocalypse. Human bodies open up like fresh casserole under the ministrations of the undead.
 
You would have thought Glenn would be strong enough to pull Noah back when the zombie (certainly not benefiting from the strength of the living) only had Noah's ankle....
 
You would have thought Glenn would be strong enough to pull Noah back when the zombie (certainly not benefiting from the strength of the living) only had Noah's ankle....

I think leaning forward to grab a hold of Noah would have taken his weight off the door behind him, opening it more and the walkers would have got them both. I don't think he had the leverage to save Noah.
 
Very bony fingers. ;)
Like Fondue Forks?

Only peasant zombies use fondue forks. For entrails, sophisticated zombies know to use spaghetti forks! :drool:

Even thought the rotating door window is cover with blood. You can tell that the hand that ripped Noah face off fingers aren't bony. It look like a strong meaty hand.

http://screencapped.net/tv/thewalkingdead/displayimage.php?album=1485&pid=1696513#top_display_media

:vulcan: It was a joke, Spock. (that was another joke ;))
 
You would have thought Glenn would be strong enough to pull Noah back when the zombie (certainly not benefiting from the strength of the living) only had Noah's ankle....

I think leaning forward to grab a hold of Noah would have taken his weight off the door behind him, opening it more and the walkers would have got them both. I don't think he had the leverage to save Noah.

Maybe. Did he have a pistol to shoot the walker who grabbed Noah's leg?
 
So, Rick is banished (I think everyone saw that coming), Glenn has yet another new enemy (armed with the once-hidden gun), and Deanna seems to have bought into Gabriel's warning.

Sasha's "it worked out for you" to Michonne made little sense: how has it worked out? Finding ASZ? Is Sasha of the opinion that Michonne has not suffered as much? If so, then she would be forgetting Michonne lost her child, boyfriend and best friend (Andrea).

Rick's paranoia and anything for survival / obsessive behavior is firmly a mirror of Shane, and now he will pay a price for his violence and attempt to "school" the ASZ residents. I doubt he will demand Carl and Judith go with him, but who will he trust going forward? Michonne hit him, he's had ideological differences with Glenn, and Daryl? Well, he said he's trying to fit in, so will he agree with Rick's fate?

The wolves are nearby, but why do I have the feeling the wolves are within the ASZ walls....

With the amount of deaths coming pretty close together (Beth and Tyreese were 17 days apart, and Noah not long after), I wonder if the rest of the group will see Rick as being a problem, thus creating the set up for two communities?
 
Carl's growing up! He just had his first boner! ;)

I don't think Rick is out-of-line, he very much as a point in his basic premise, even if he's going about expressing or delivering it in a pretty crummy way. There's little excuse for a "society" or "civilization" to keep a man who abuses his wife and child around the people he harms. There may be no clear, easy, solution to protect her and the kid but something has to be done. And how good and reliable of a doctor/surgeon could he be if he's hammered all of the time?

Sasha's off the deep end, and I'd almost argue she's probably luring a herd toward Alexandria which will likely set off the sequence of events that drives next week's episode that'll further establish our "base ground" for next season.

So, Second-in-Command Dipshit took the "A" Gun? Hmmm. Wonder if he's with the "wolves."

If Deanna is as good at reading people as she claimed when we first met her wouldn't she have seen through SiC-Dipshit's lies and seen that Glenn was being truthful?

Man, that was a shitty song to use in the cold-open.

I wonder if Deanna's rejection of the casserole and burning of the sympathy card is a symbol that she's not buying into Carol's June Cleaver shtick?

And, man that goddamn kid and the cookies!
 
I wonder if Deanna's rejection of the casserole and burning of the sympathy card is a symbol that she's not buying into Carol's June Cleaver shtick?

That was what I was thinking.

I could not figure out what to make of that Nine Inch Nails opening, it was odd. Head Like a Hole might have been good during Sasha's rampages...
 
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