The Walking Dead Season 5

[Neroon]

I am closing this thread TEMPORARILY in order to make a few things clear to folks in a fast moving thread. It is also pinned for the time being to make it easier to resume the conversation later, at which time it will be unlocked and unpinned.

1.) Please do not post spoilers for the comic or the show. It's easy to do when the comments are posted so quickly

2.) Please do not post consecutive posts. Instead, make use of the multi-quote and/or the edit button if you find multiple posts or persons to whom you wish to reply.

3.) And most significantly, keep the emotions in check and dial back the the personality driven comments. The issue homosexuality is the very definition of a hot-button topic, but getting nasty towards one another won't solve anything, no mater on which side of the issue you stand. If you wish to debate the issue of homosexuality itself, a better venue might be TNZ, but that does not mean the topic needs to be avoided here in SF&F. I ask that you do keep it within the context of the franchise being discussed, in this case.


This thread will remain closed temporarily for a couple of hours so that everyone has a chance to see the points above, and tempers can calm down. Actually, those haven't been too bad, but the reminder still stands.

 

[Neroon]

The zombies are still out there....

 

[Mojochi]

I really don't know what constitutes spoilers anymore. Some of this might

Anywhooo... The best thing about this past week's episode is that FINALLY we have the whole group together, and we still managed to have stories that featured only a couple at a time. Anyone else notice that Tara is a pretty well absent through the whole thing, Eugene is just set dressing & Daryl & Carol only get one line a piece?

This episode was mostly about the Rick & Michonne dynamic & I think it was well done in that respect, & it shows you don't need to have everyone on separate missions or broken up to tell individual stories. It may not be a romance burgeoning between those two, but it's certainly the emergence of a leadership paradigm.

 

[Kosh Naranek]

I have not watched the episode yet. The loss of Tyrese 2 episodes ago and the dull episode of the previous week has done little to stoke my interest in new TWD.

However, I am a bit shocked that the intro of the new character has inspired such vitriol.

But, I feel that the show has several characters that I have not connected with at all. I forgot Tara was on the show until Mojochi just mentioned her in the post above. Eugene, Rosita and their leader dude (forget his name) don't really have a presence for me. Perhaps they will all end up zombie fodder, but the characters I truly care about on the show are dwindling as is my interest.

 

[Leroy]

I think the show does a poor job at character development I feel I don't really know any of the characters. Maybe I'm spoiled with nuBSG where the writers bent over backwards for character development.

As for the last episode with the "reveal" with some of the comments I've seen and heard you'd think the show is going to change directions completely. I decided to write a humorous and graphic synopsis for the shows series finale.

Spoiler: Grahpic NSFW Walking Dead ending synopsis

This is graphic and NSFW you were warned!

In the very last episode something strange happens where the behavior of the surviving humans and zombies is altered. The zombies begin to show higher brain functions! The surviving humans are also altered, perhaps a viral mutation? The virus causes all humans and zombies to stop fighting/eating flesh and crave... get this! gay sex! All the characters and zombies engage in a massive orgy of the living and undead spanning the globe! it is so intense it alters the phase variance (technobabble whatever) of the planet enough to attract aliens! Specifically the Vorlon Empire, the Vorlons are horrified and saddened at what they find (without humanity able to go to the stars the Babylon project will not come to fruition and the Shadow war will never end) so they decide to use a tractor beam to tow the planet into the sun where all our heroes die in a fiery inferno. The end, there is also a cameo by Kosh who says someting cryptic. I figure this could also be a good pitch to the network for a possible new Babylon 5 series.

 

[yenny]

If you want know what's going on. Go to a FaceBook account know as The Walking Dead Spoilers. So far as I seen they been getting what going to happen in the up coming episode right.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I really don't know what constitutes spoilers anymore. Some of this might

Anywhooo... The best thing about this past week's episode is that FINALLY we have the whole group together, and we still managed to have stories that featured only a couple at a time. Anyone else notice that Tara is a pretty well absent through the whole thing, Eugene is just set dressing & Daryl & Carol only get one line a piece?

Tara will not factor into a bigger plot until the end of the season, IF the ASZ is as populated as imagined. By that time, Rick's group will likely make splintering decisions on loyalty and direction, so at that point, Tara will either come into her own, or continue to back Glenn, who I feel is the random mover to come.

As for Daryl and Carol, I feel a conflict is coming, as he seemed to push her away (slightly), which some viewers believe to be his struggles with grief. I just hope after the necessary dialogue between the two (during the search for Beth), with Carol finding her place as a normal person, the producers do not create yet another rift in the group. There's been too much of that this season, with Glenn telling Rick "that's still who we are," to Tyreese and Daryl not wanting a hit-and-run (kill) mission at the hospital, etc.

This episode was mostly about the Rick & Michonne dynamic & I think it was well done in that respect, & it shows you don't need to have everyone on separate missions or broken up to tell individual stories. It may not be a romance burgeoning between those two, but it's certainly the emergence of a leadership paradigm.

Michonne has come into her own. She respects Rick's role, but has her own survival experiences to bring to the table--something Rick appears to acknowledge more than ever.

For the interest of this series to continue, the TV version of the ASZ should not be yet another fake sanctuary in the vein of Woodbury or Terminus.

 

[Trekker4747]

I really don't know what constitutes spoilers anymore. Some of this might.

Anything that's going to happen that hasn't already happened. Speculation is one thing, speculation based on the source material is in a far grayer area but better to be safe than sorry and not use it. Stuff revealed in previews is generally okay.

 

[Mojochi]

I really don't know what constitutes spoilers anymore. Some of this might.

Anything that's going to happen that hasn't already happened. Speculation is one thing, speculation based on the source material is in a far grayer area but better to be safe than sorry and not use it. Stuff revealed in previews is generally okay.

Oh... thanks. Then I'm mot really ever guilty of that, because I don't read the comic, & any speculation is just show based

I think the show does a poor job at character development I feel I don't really know any of the characters

I tend to agree. At least in that they are inconsistent & clumsy with it, and because I don't read the comic, I can't be certain, but a savvy viewer can tell when someone is trying to shoehorn pre-established material into a production, & I feel way too much of that, & it leaves the show feeling more artificial in it's relationships & stories than the better crowd of tv dramas

That being said. They got zombies. lol

 

[Ryan8bit]

a savvy viewer can tell when someone is trying to shoehorn pre-established material into a production, & I feel way too much of that, & it leaves the show feeling more artificial in it's relationships

Honestly, I don't think the show really felt that way until Scott Gimple started running things. Things varied a lot more and didn't make huge efforts to realign with the comics or do things in a very similar order. In the past two seasons, it feels like they're trying to tell stories that just don't work anymore. It's like too little too late. Kind of like when Manny Coto took over Enterprise, except well, TWD has viewers and is still decent.

 

[Mojochi]

Oh yeah... It's definitely a more recent thing. Prior to the prison, it felt more natural. Terminus, Slabtown & now Alexanndria have all felt like prepackaged dinners

 

[Ryan8bit]

Slabtown was completely new though. At best it just felt like a vehicle to get rid of Beth.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Slabtown was completely new though. At best it just felt like a vehicle to get rid of Beth.

..and that's the bad part for the writing staff: when viewers see Grady Memorial as being so dysfunctional that it only served one purpose, they lose the element of story and/or surprise with audiences.

Who did not know Beth was on her way out the second her return episode opened?

 

[Velocity]

Rick is clean shaven and everyone is clean but Daryl looks the same...with possum guts. Will he feel comfortable there? He never had that kind of life before.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Looks too good to be true.

 

[sojourner]

Dammit, I wish the show would stop interrupting my commercial watching! Seems like every 5 minutes.

 

[Velocity]

Also, there is a definite creep factor. Why would they be so accepting of these new people? So shiny, happy people? Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Rick is more predatory than ever before. His parting line says it all, while Carol and Carl are on the (correct) page.

Go Glenn! He really takes no crap anymore.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

That zombie hunting crew is lucky to make it back alive and not because of zombies. They were probably lucky not to have taken Rick and Darryl instead.

 

[Trekker4747]

RIP - The Beard.

Loved seeing Rick back in a sheriff's uniform. Daryl's going back on the outs. I know what I know, but this group does come off has hard to trust. I'd think Rick would have taken the position of trying to "harden" them a bit or maybe make them a tiny bit more prepared for marauders over taking the place over.

Yeah, haircut lady's ominous husband smoking ominously on the ominous porch at night wasn't at all ominous.