Watched The battle from the 1st season last night and it i was wondering would after being return,would starfleet put the ship in the fleet museum or would they did the stargazer a major upgraded and recertified it for duty with a new crew?.
The USS Stargazer
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They probably just de-commissioned it after it was returned. It was pretty old when the Ferengi showed up with it and Picard commanded it for 18 years I think before the events at Maxia Zeta. I believe it was about 10 years between the Maxia Zeta incident and Picards new command with Enterprise so it logged quite a few lightyears.
Starfleet probably put Stargazer in a shipyard like Qualor 2, or used it for spares since another Constellation class ship, the USS Victory, was still in service. DS9 episodes “The Abandoned” and “Waltz” mention a USS Constellation. Since the ship wasn’t seen on-screen, it could be the original Constellation class ship, which would probably be around 90 years old by the early 2370s. Otherwise, the USS Constellation mentioned in dialog on DS9 is a ship of a newer class, which can be argued since the oldest Constellation class ships seen onscreen, the USS Stargazer and USS Hathaway, were no longer in service and around 75-80 years in the 2360s. The USS Constellation class ship would be just as old if not older. Maybe Starfleet keeps a Constellation class vessel around for cadet training or hauling cargo, like the ill-fated USS Lantree.
I wonder if Picard's old ship would warrant museum status at the time of "The Battle"? Picard's exploits aboard her were never described in great detail, and it could be that the Picard Maneuver in the Battle of Maxia was the only historic thing the ship ever achieved. Probably not enough to warrant museum status.
Later on, of course, it might be found prudent to preserve the ship for no other reason than as the early command of the man who gained serious interstellar fame after "The Battle". But by that time, Stargazer might already be scrap metal.
Timo Saloniemi
Later on, of course, it might be found prudent to preserve the ship for no other reason than as the early command of the man who gained serious interstellar fame after "The Battle". But by that time, Stargazer might already be scrap metal.
Timo Saloniemi
Considering that Picard described the Stargazer as an "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams" I would be surprised if it went back in to service.
I recently saw a documentary in a WWII destroyer that was rammed by a tanker and cut exactly in half. The bow sank, but the stern stayed afloat. They towed the stern home and built a whole new front half, recommissioned her with her old name and put her right back into service!
OTOH, e.g. the Soviets kept a great many vessels for "future use", which very seldom meant use of the type the ship was originally built for... If Starfleet mothballed the Stargazer, it could be for future use as a practice target, much as was done with the Hathaway.
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Perhaps the star gazer wouldnt have been worthy of a museum place after the battle of Maxia. After all Picard wasn't that famous at that point, all that came out of it was the Picard Manoeuvr. However in time, after Picard's long established career in Star fleet had been more recognised, people would look upon the Star gazer with more reverance.
To nitpick, no, he didn't.
When Picard first told the story of the Battle of Maxia, Data cut in and said "and then you did what we now know as the Picard Maneuver", but that was all. Later on, LaForge said he had read about the Stargazer at the Academy, but there was no indication this was required reading.
Perhaps only LaForge was familiar with this ship, and only because he had been helmsman to the sister vessel Victory once? None of the other officers indicated familiarity with the ship, although they did seem to know about the Picard Maneuver.
Timo Saloniemi
When Picard first told the story of the Battle of Maxia, Data cut in and said "and then you did what we now know as the Picard Maneuver", but that was all. Later on, LaForge said he had read about the Stargazer at the Academy, but there was no indication this was required reading.
Perhaps only LaForge was familiar with this ship, and only because he had been helmsman to the sister vessel Victory once? None of the other officers indicated familiarity with the ship, although they did seem to know about the Picard Maneuver.
Timo Saloniemi
Hell, maybe Picard spent all those interim years between the Stargazer and the Enterprise as an Academy instructor indoctrinating cadets with the awesomeness of his 'Picard Maneuver' and former command until the myth took hold and he was named flagship captain.
That sounds more like the kind of egotistical thing Kirk would do.
He may not have said it was required reading, but it was in their textbooks so they probably did have to study it in command school.
Hell, maybe Picard spent all those interim years between the Stargazer and the Enterprise as an Academy instructor indoctrinating cadets with the awesomeness of his 'Picard Maneuver' and former command until the myth took hold and he was named flagship captain.
That sounds more like the kind of egotistical thing Kirk would do.
And did really, if TWOK is any indication.
Hell, maybe Picard spent all those interim years between the Stargazer and the Enterprise as an Academy instructor indoctrinating cadets with the awesomeness of his 'Picard Maneuver' and former command until the myth took hold and he was named flagship captain.
That sounds more like the kind of egotistical thing Kirk would do.
And did really, if TWOK is any indication.
Well, he was the only cadet with enough brains to reprogram the simulator for the Kobayashi Maru. That has to count for something...
