The Undiscovered Country Engine Room

[Galileo7]

Since the discussion is about TOS Main Engineering Room(instead of The Undiscovered Country Engine Room). Here are links to the changes in TOS sets:
http://www.trekplace.com/article14.html
http://www.trekplace.com/article07.html

 

[Mytran]

Those are indeed good articles. One day soon, they'll be finished...

 

[Timo]

...And then we can start figuring out how to put the sets together into one integrated Main Engineering, with minimal changes (and so that changes within a single episode, such as the wrench table appearing in "Court Martial", can be accommodated).

Timo Saloniemi

 

[blssdwlf]

...And then we can start figuring out how to put the sets together into one integrated Main Engineering, with minimal changes (and so that changes within a single episode, such as the wrench table appearing in "Court Martial", can be accommodated).

I thought that was obvious - Finney messed with the visual playback records... again

 

[FalTorPan]

Since the discussion is about TOS Main Engineering Room(instead of The Undiscovered Country Engine Room). Here are links to the changes in TOS sets:
http://www.trekplace.com/article14.html
http://www.trekplace.com/article07.html

To be fair, only the first article that you linked to is unfinished. Maybe I'll take another look at it in December.

 

[Mytran]

Since the discussion is about TOS Main Engineering Room(instead of The Undiscovered Country Engine Room). Here are links to the changes in TOS sets:
http://www.trekplace.com/article14.html
http://www.trekplace.com/article07.html

To be fair, only the first article that you linked to is unfinished. Maybe I'll take another look at it in December.

True, but that's the really interesting one!
From my POV, anyway

 

[Captain Robert April]

...And then we can start figuring out how to put the sets together into one integrated Main Engineering, with minimal changes (and so that changes within a single episode, such as the wrench table appearing in "Court Martial", can be accommodated).

Timo Saloniemi

What the hell's wrong with the wrench?

Y'know, not every hand tool has to be some high tech gizmo.

 

[Mytran]

Of course not. It's a Space Wrench ... of The Future !!!

The real question is - where are all the nuts and bolts that need such a large adjuastable spanner? I never saw any

 

[Captain Robert April]

Under the deck plates.

 

[Timo]

What the hell's wrong with the wrench? Y'know, not every hand tool has to be some high tech gizmo.

But that's just the problem: this high tech wrench is apparently equipped with a transporter so that it can appear out of nowhere between shots...

The only way to "solve" that problem, I guess, is to assume that the engineering spaces of the TOS ship consist of multiple near-identical parallel "boiler rooms" and the fight between Kirk and Finney ebbed and flowed between those rooms. Which would help with other things, too.

Or then the two fighters accidentally hit a switch that caused a tool stand to emerge from the floor. It would make sense for such things to be available at Main Engineering...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Mytran]

The answer is simple; Smart Spanners. Unlike these days, when you can never find the right tool for the job, by the 23rd Century all tools have a limited AI built into them, so they know exactly when to turn up.

 

[blssdwlf]

Or there was a interspatial tear in the engine room that was caused by the ferociousness of the fight. Each blow landed on the opponent was so strong it literally knocked them temporarily into another similar universe. You could tell when that happened when Kirk or Finney didn't look like Kirk or Finney anymore Finney got lucky when he got knocked into one with a spanner placed in the corner and brought it back with him into the fight.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Who wants to check that scene and see if that wrench was there when Kirk first entered?

 

[blssdwlf]

Sure - when Kirk first enters the engine room, that corner did not have the stand with the wrench. We never see that corner again until after Kirk and Finney are wrestling on the control panels and then Kirk punches Finney near to that corner. You can catch a glimpse of the wrench+stand in that corner and it stays there on any subsequent shots where that corner is visible and when Finney grabs the wrench.

Now after seeing it again - it is entirely possible that there is a stand that can slide out/rotate out/rise up out of that corner after some buttons were inadvertently pushed in the opening parts of the fight. There were no random appear/disappear happenings as far as I can tell

 

[seekertwo]

Maybe it was a holo-wrench....