It'd explain a great. Many. Things. [/Palpatine]
The UFO Stigma
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Oh. They used to be visiting us. But when they saw what pictures and videos we were attributing to them, they left laughing.
The report to the galactic supreme being concluded “All hope is lost. Evacuate the whole quadrant.”
As much as I'd love for a decent UFO (or ghost, cryptid, etc) video that wasn't immediately recognizable as a hoax or something natural, we just never see them. You can have a camera on your phone that shoots in 4K, but the "best evidence" is a blurry, out of focus light that could be anything.
I want to believe, but no one has shown me anything solid.
I want to believe, but no one has shown me anything solid.
I wonder where to draw the line between "extraordinary" proof and "common sense" proof, so to speak. I agree with you and Possum and I don't completely agree with some of what MarsWeeps posted, but I'm willing to venture he has a point to some extent. Blurry pictures of alleged UFOs and other things don't cut it, but if you had a photo that looked clear and seemed to show a lot of details, there are some who would dismiss it virtually out of hand as being a Photoshop or edit.
To use an example, I enjoy reading articles on Skeptoid which deal with a lot of these topics. I don't always agree with the author, but in general I think he does a pretty decent job of looking into things and poking holes in pseudoscience. In one article dealing with ghosts and paranormal phenomena, he brought up a point that I both agree and disagree with in terms of how it's phrased.
He suggested that if proof of such phenomena more readily available and even readily provable, then it's logical that an entity like the Ghostbusters would find a way to monetize it and turn it into a business. I agree with that, but I disagree with the provided example (hospitals) because I don't think hospitals would try to make money advertising ghosts, it's not their job. By that logic, they should sell coffins and other funeral services because they need the money and they can't save everyone, even if they try. But they don't because the hospital's job is to see to the welfare and health of their patients, and the same is true of any other career that might happen to involve death - police, the military, etc.
For myself, I like to think I'm an open-minded skeptic. That means I'm not willing to agree with or believe every unusual story I've read, nor do I believe that every such story is the result of those involved lying, being confused, out for attention and so forth. It's certainly possible, if not probable, in my mind that if some of the UFO stories that were reported decades ago actually occurred, then the UFOs simply left and haven't come back (yet). They have good reason to be scared away from a zany planet like Earth.
I think in any given case, it's important to look at whatever evidence is available and judge it accordingly.
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I have always thought that schools should be teaching logical thinking beginning in grade school. I don't think a lot of people know how to think logically about things. The scientific method allows for adopting new ideas after corroborating experiments but a lot of paranormal claims just don't lend themselves to scientific examination in the usual way. One could say the same thing about psychiatry to some extent also. I don't think the twain will ever agree - one side thinking they are open minded and the other thinking that they are gullible instead. There are hoaxes on both sides - even James Randi has been found screwing with data.
I'm done. Going to get a Powerade and some oreos.
I'm done. Going to get a Powerade and some oreos.
Saw several UFOs during my Air Force career, however each upon further observation was easily identifiable as a normal everyday object. My personal favorite was a C-130 with his retractable landing lights in both wings stuck in the retracted position shining brightly in the midnight mist at RAF Woodbridge..looked just like a scene from Close Encounters as I was driving under the landing pattern..then I got closer and was able to id it as a normal aircraft as it became illuminated by the air base lights.. often people see an unknown and automatically ID it as an "Alien Spacecraft" without further observation..about 100 years ago, they were "Mystery Airships" and 1000 years ago they were "angels".. I won't believe that they are alien spacecraft until one lands in Washington DC opens up and disgorges Klattu and Gort..
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"Ive been abducted and probed in the anus.... on purpose"
"Ive been abducted and probed in the anus.... on purpose"
Just playing the odds, there is almost certainly some form of intelligent life in the universe besides us. But them being close enough to visit us, make contact or even be aware of our existence is probably incredibly small.
But I hope I'm wrong.
I think some people confuse the question is their alien life elsewhere in the universe with has alien life visited Earth.
Please enlighten us then.
You can't scientifically examine a claim. If there were something to examine, it would be more than a claim.
No. Pretty much everything in psychology is rigorously scientifically examined. Maybe you are thinking of other types of social sciences. Gender studies?
Probably not. The only thing both sides can agree on is that there are recorded instances of strange objects that are unexplained. Where they disagree is whether the objects are natural, human made, or involve some other causes we do not understand.
"Millions of people around the world believe we have been visited in the past by extraterrestrial beings. What if it were true? If so, could aliens have made contact with ancient civilizations, thereby influencing their way of life and shaping humanity's destiny? "
Who were they? Why did they come? What did they leave behind? Where did they go? Will they return?
Personally, I believe Giorgio Tsoukalos has all the answers.
Who were they? Why did they come? What did they leave behind? Where did they go? Will they return?
Personally, I believe Giorgio Tsoukalos has all the answers.
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Does that answer come roughly 3 seconds after he asks the question? Yes, it does."Millions of people around the world believe we have been visited in the past by extraterrestrial beings. What if it were true? If so, could aliens have made contact with ancient civilizations, thereby influencing their way of life and shaping humanity's destiny? "
Who were they? Why did they come? What did they leave behind? Where did they go? Will they return?
Personally, I believe Giorgio Tsoukalos has all the answers.
There are those who say that life here, began out there.
At least they put you back!
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I'm linking pictures I took from a 1978 issue of Galaxy magazine reviewing Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I find them interesting, because the first reviewer loved the film. The second one did not, mostly because the film follows too closely actual accounts of UFO sightings, and follows the "script" written by UFOlogists. So the first reviewer takes the films on it's own merits, while the second can't get past his disdain of the UFO community and view the film more as a "what if" story than one that wholeheartedly supports beliefs in UFOs.
Amusingly, the positive review calls Star Wars a "videogame with actors". I wonder what he thought of the prequels.
The current you, or the original you?
I just found that quote amusing, especially in 1978. Comparing an effects heavy movie to a videogame is nothing new, but the top video game of that year was Space Invaders. Not exactly what I think of when I think of Star Wars.
