The two changes I would make to Star Trek: Generations

[DarKush]

My changes:
-Made the co-villains Ferengi. I think it would've been a nice tribute to TNG's first homegrown villains. Plus seeing a D'Kora on the big screen would've been awesome. I was disappointed that they wasted the Duras sisters. I think they should've saved them to use them more on DS9. It would've been cool to see them plotting and scheming during the Dominion War.
-That long dialogue scene on Veridian III between Picard and Soran would be cut significantly. It slowed down the film.
-In the Nexus, Crusher would be Picard's wife.
-In the Nexus, Kirk would be on the Enterprise 1701. They could've bought back Scotty and Chekov at least for that scene. Maybe bring in Rand or someone else who might've been willing to do a cameo.
-When they return from the Nexus, the final action might take place on the Enterprise-D, and I would probably go with the idea of Kirk taking a shot in the back, having him die on the bridge.

 

[Galileo7]

My changes:
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-In the Nexus, Kirk would be on the Enterprise 1701. They could've bought back Scotty and Chekov at least for that scene. Maybe bring in Rand or someone else who might've been willing to do a cameo.
-When they return from the Nexus, the final action might take place on the Enterprise-D, and I would probably go with the idea of Kirk taking a shot in the back, having him die on the bridge.

Good ideas for Kirk.

 

[los2188]

I felt the E was introduced very flippantly (and shown first time at a really bad angle as well). Either at the start of FC or the end of Generations we should have seen the crew getting a look at it for the first time. Maybe a throwaway line at the end of Generations that an existing new class of ship currently being built will be renamed the enterprise E and at the end of the movie you see the crew coming back on the rescue ship, passing it under construction in the spacedock in orbit.[/QUOTE]

Well I know that they tried to keep the new Enterprise E design a secret before the movie was released, and thank goodness they didn't use the chicken in a frying pan model that they came up with at first, but I agree with you that it would have been nice to have the Enterprise E introduced with more of a ta-da type flare and it would have made perfect sense to introduce the Enterprise E, just as they introduced the Enterprise B at the beginning. It would have given the movie just that much more of a passing of the torch feel to it...does anyone disagree??

 

[DonIago]

Hm. I hope it wouldn't have felt like a rip-off of the end of TVH.

 

[los2188]

Hm. I hope it wouldn't have felt like a rip-off of the end of TVH.

Yeah, I know what you mean about the rip-off feel, but it could have been done in such a way that you give a little at the end, maybe a glancing shot of the Enterprise E, but not too much to make people excited to see more of it in First Contact. Also, I still want to know why the Geordi torture scene was cut, and the extended version of Data's emotional seizure.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I still want to know why the Geordi torture scene was cut

Check it out on Youtube. It's booooooooooooooring.

 

[Balrog]

One wonders why they didn't go with AGT for the movie outing? Q would have made a great movie villain.

 

[Therin of Andor]

One wonders why they didn't go with AGT for the movie outing? Q would have made a great movie villain.

Because AGT was written as a bookend to "Encounter at Farpoint".

Movies based on a TV series are written for an audience way beyond the core TV viewership of that show. Trying to explain who Q was, and his backstory, plus why it was so cool to be seeing Yar again, plus carry three different timeszones, would have made a horrid mess of a film for newcomers.

And the problem with returning a recent, popular, TV character as a guest villain in a feature film is that you may not be able to secure the actor until after a script is written. And if they refuse, you've wasted your pre-production budget on a script that now has to be rewritten. Or the role recast.

eg. "Mr de Lancie's agent, how would your client like to be in the first TNG movie."

"What's the script like?

"Not written yet."

"Ask again when it is."

"Okay, here it is."

"Mmmmm, well he's very busy at the moment. Give us a few months and get back to us" or "Nah, not good enough" or "So sorry, I am contracted to something else" or "Looks great, we want more money than Stewart and Spiner or we walk."

If the Duras sisters had turned down "Generations", they'd simply be renamed and no one would have noticed. But de Lancie's Q is indelible.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I still want to know why the Geordi torture scene was cut

Check it out on Youtube. It's booooooooooooooring.

It's also a continuity nightmare. It was filmed with the unused uniforms, so it would have had to be reshot when they decided to scrap the new uniforms and go with the mixture of TNG and DS9 uniforms. Generations was on a tight schedule; they didn't have the time, to say nothing of the money, to restage an entire scene like that for continuity reasons.

(Please note. I'm using "continuity" in the film production sense, not in the in-universe story development sense. It's making sure that costumes match, that haircuts match, that kind of thing.)

 

[Therin of Andor]

It's also a continuity nightmare. It was filmed with the unused uniforms, so it would have had to be reshot when they decided to scrap the new uniforms and go with the mixture of TNG and DS9 uniforms.

Exactly, but my comment was in response to the earlier poster who said the uniform change didn't matter because Geordi was shirtless during the torture scene. Yep, the dropped scene started with him in the rejected uniform and was never reshot.