The topic of Tegan Jovanka

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Gingerbread Demon, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Location:
    The Other Realms
    Was Tegan perhaps the only companion ever to have been driven crazy from her time in the TARDIS?

    I'm not sure if I recall this right but in her very final episode when she finally got back to Earth she just bolted and ran.
     
  2. Nightowl1701

    Nightowl1701 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2011
    Location:
    Orlando, FL
    No, she wasn't crazy. She left because the Doctor's life (thanks in large part to Eric Saward) had gotten too crazy and sadistic, with far too high a body count.

    "My Aunt Vanessa said, when I became an air stewardess: 'If you stop enjoying it, give it up.' It's stopped being fun, Doctor. Goodbye."
     
    Qonundrum and Allyn Gibson like this.
  3. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Location:
    The Other Realms
    Oh OK for all these years I kept thinking her time in the TARDIS had driven her crazy, especially Kinda.
     
    Qonundrum likes this.
  4. Qonundrum

    Qonundrum Vice Admiral Admiral

    Great question!

    IMHO, Adventures with scary extraterrestrials in completely extraterrestrial environments could drive a person crazy, and the time between televised stories has also been filled with so many novels and audio adventures that she just had no time to relax.

    It didn't help that the Mara toyed with her, took a nap, then revived a few stories later... or how the Eternals were traipsing through her mind without her consent. Except the Mara was sentient and consciously evil, the Eternals were just bored and found nothing better to get high on.

    It didn't help the number of times she was at gunpoint, kidnapped, threatened, under stress having to tell a Tereleptil asking her questions - no wonder she gets the Doctor's planet's detail wrong when trying to remember it.

    Indeed, given the basic trope, it's more natural for Tegan to leave having gone under excessive pressure than even Ian and Barbara as those two remained collected for the most part. Even under conditions where Ian should be a bit startled (though seeing the tender innards of a Dalek made up for it and he deals only with chemistry, not biological science), but isn't. Nope. After twice as many episodes of horrors Tegan had, they just stumble across a Dalek time machine and act like it's a box of chewing gum in the store's checkout aisle's impulse selection since when's the last time that section had anything useful that one's likely going to forget about?
     
    Velocity and Gingerbread Demon like this.
  5. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2005
    Location:
    Far North Chicago Suburbs
    She was one of the more excitable companions, for certain. If you haven't seen her classic episodes in a long time, I could see where you'd think "crazy".

    The Doctor: "I once spent a hell of a long time trying to get a gobby Australian to Heathrow airport."
    Clara Oswald: "What for?"
    The Doctor: "Search me.
     
  6. JoeZhang

    JoeZhang Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2008
    I think it's the *opposite* - in my headcanon - Radiation emitted by the TARDIS impacts the human brain in such a way that it suppresses a normal sense of risk. For some reason, Teagan was immune and her reaction is entirely normal.
     
    Ar-Pharazon likes this.
  7. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Location:
    The Other Realms
    Well didn't the Doctor at one point threaten Ian and Barbara with throwing them out of the TARDIS while in flight?
     
  8. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Boy Racers are the worst.
     
    Ar-Pharazon likes this.
  9. VDCNI

    VDCNI Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    May 26, 2009
    Location:
    London UK
    She found it very stressful at the beginning but she was fine later. She did come back onto the Tardis after being left behind in Timeflight after all and even in her last story she runs back as if she'd changed her mind.
     
  10. The Borgified Corpse

    The Borgified Corpse Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2000
    Location:
    Ouch! Forgotten already? You were just down ther
    ^True. While she may have changed her mind, I'm pretty sure that the Doctor hadn't. He was clearly so glad to be rid of her in "Time-Flight" and it's incredible to see his grimace as Nyssa invites her to rejoin them in "Arc of Infinity." It kinda seemed like the only reason why he added Turlough & Kameleon as companions was because he was hoping that they would annoy Tegan enough that she would leave because the 5th Doctor was too milquetoast to get rid of her himself. I kinda suspect that's why his next regeneration was so rude. The 5th Doctor was too easily pushed around, so he decided to become the kind of guy who wouldn't hesitate to tell people to f--k off if he wanted.

    That seems pretty irresponsible. When the doors opened while the TARDIS was in flight, it created a vortex that nearly sucked out everyone in "The Enemy of the World." And when the doors opened while landing, it made the TARDIS shrink in "Planet of Giants."

    I presume it was just an empty threat, like when he said he was going to spank Susan. ;)
     
  11. arch101

    arch101 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    May 3, 1999
    Location:
    Quincy, MA
    Every companion who travels with the Doc has their life threatened at some point or other. Tegan gave the show that one tinge of realism that at least ONE companion would finally say "enough of this- I don't need to be doing this". Not everyone is a fearless Highlander who knows how to use a knife.
     
  12. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2002
    I like that theory!
     
  13. The Borgified Corpse

    The Borgified Corpse Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2000
    Location:
    Ouch! Forgotten already? You were just down ther
    There were other companions who weren't too keen on the danger that traveling with the Doctor put them in-- Ian, Barbara, Harry, Rory. I kinda wish that the show would go back to the format of "The Doctor & the companions are stuck together because he's so poor at piloting the TARDIS that he can't get them home even when he wants to." It seemed like maybe Season 11 was going to go in that direction given how things turned out at the end of "The Woman Who Fell to Earth," but alas....
     
  14. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Location:
    The Other Realms
    Spanking Susan..... Hmmm
     
  15. publiusr

    publiusr Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2010
    Location:
    publiusr
    I wanted Snakedance to be more ethereal than it was
     
  16. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2020
  17. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

    Joined:
    May 26, 2007
    Location:
    In many different universes, simultaneously.
    I never listened to any of the audio stories, so I go by what was on TV. She had two run-ins with the Mara, which dominated her mind and left her quite disturbed. She was also very upset because friends she'd made either died or left (Adric died, as well as one of the female guest characters, Nyssa left, and people died in the episode in which she ultimately left). And of course the whole thing started when the Master killed her Auntie Vanessa.

    I would have been surprised if Tegan was not in need of psychiatric help when she finally left the Doctor and Turlough.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    There's still time.