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The took "Constructed at San Francisco Fleet Yards" too literally?

Who actually wrote Roddenberry's TMP novelization, anyway? Alan Dean Foster is one name that's been mentioned.

Gene Roddenberry wrote it. It practically screams "first-time novelist with a history in screenwriting who is also incredibly horny and juvenile."

Passages of it in fact do, and that's reason enough to accept that he had a heavy editorial hand in the thing and probably contributed (possibly dictated) long rambling passages. That he was the writer who gave it structure and whipped it into publishable narrative shape is extraordinarily unlikely - there's either a ghost-writer (again, often suggested to be Foster) or an undefatiguably dedicated copy editor somewhere out there who'd doubtless be entitled to co-authorial credit (if he or she would want it).

I've heard the Foster rumour as well, but I've also heard it debunked (though never with Davidcgc's specific points). I could well believe either.
 
Is it just me, or has the ST Team continually screwed up Canon repeatedly. This is yet another example of that. Don't get me wrong, I am excited about the film, but I think this is the last attempt to make it viable again.

Its just you...

Sharr
 
Is anyone sure that this is anything more than a teaser? Teasers are just meant to whet your appitite and not necessarily meant to actually be in the movie.

Examples:

Terminator 2 - Terminator Factory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us3ggae8-Ec

Spider-Man Bank Robbery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-r7qymfa0Q

I'm sure there's others but those were the only ones coming to mind.
They took the bank roberry/ twin towers scene out becouse of 9/11 as for Terminator , who know's . I personally believe that the teaser will be in the movie
 
parts of the ship were constructed on earth then transported to space , then finished in orbit, I think it's safe to make that asumption. By transported I don't nesecarily mean using a transporter, but they might.
 
I couldn't imagine actually giving a crap where the ship was built. I do care what the ship looks like (to a point) and I do care about the uniforms and props...but mostly, I care that the story is good and the acting is good and that they make enough money to keep making movies!
 
Who actually wrote Roddenberry's TMP novelization, anyway? Alan Dean Foster is one name that's been mentioned.

I don't have my copy of Voyages of Imagination handy to provide the exact quote (but surely someone here could?), but in it the Pocket editor at the time states that to the best of his knowledge, Roddenberry wrote it solo. I tend to think he likely did for the same reasons David cgc enumerates.

Alan Dean Foster has denied having had anything to do with it whenever he's been asked.

Edited to add: Here's the exact quote I referred to above.

A persistent rumor about this book is who the real author was. Many different names have been attributed to it. Editor David Hartwell, who launched the Pocket Star Trek line and edited the novelization, remarked, "Gene Roddenberry wrote the novelization for Star Trek: The Motion Picture."
 
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I couldn't imagine actually giving a crap where the ship was built. I do care what the ship looks like (to a point) and I do care about the uniforms and props...but mostly, I care that the story is good and the acting is good and that they make enough money to keep making movies!

I love you! This is how I feel EXACTLY. I do want the ship and sets to look good, and I want it to look like it's Star Trek, BUT I can forgive an awful lot for a great story and acting.
 
Who actually wrote Roddenberry's TMP novelization, anyway? Alan Dean Foster is one name that's been mentioned.

Gene Roddenberry wrote it. It practically screams "first-time novelist with a history in screenwriting who is also incredibly horny and juvenile."

Passages of it in fact do, and that's reason enough to accept that he had a heavy editorial hand in the thing and probably contributed (possibly dictated) long rambling passages. That he was the writer who gave it structure and whipped it into publishable narrative shape is extraordinarily unlikely

Why?

Not everybody uses a ghostwriter, you know.

I remember what the TMP novelization was like. What *I* find unlikely is that Alan Dean Foster - or any decent novelist - could have written it.
 
Not everybody uses a ghostwriter, you know.

Most writers don't.

What *I* find unlikely is that Alan Dean Foster - or any decent novelist - could have written it.

I doubt that GR had the discipline or narrative skills at that point to deliver a publishable manuscript on deadline. If it wasn't cobbled together from fragments by a ghostwriter to begin with it was probably copy-edited to within an inch of its existence.
 
I couldn't imagine actually giving a crap where the ship was built. I do care what the ship looks like (to a point) and I do care about the uniforms and props...but mostly, I care that the story is good and the acting is good and that they make enough money to keep making movies!

I love you! This is how I feel EXACTLY. I do want the ship and sets to look good, and I want it to look like it's Star Trek, BUT I can forgive an awful lot for a great story and acting.
Agreed. :techman:
 
I couldn't imagine actually giving a crap where the ship was built. I do care what the ship looks like (to a point) and I do care about the uniforms and props...but mostly, I care that the story is good and the acting is good and that they make enough money to keep making movies!

I love you! This is how I feel EXACTLY. I do want the ship and sets to look good, and I want it to look like it's Star Trek, BUT I can forgive an awful lot for a great story and acting.

I don't get you people- you claim not to care, but you keep posting about how much you don't care, and how silly people are for responding to a topic... It's very odd!

There IS no reason why the ship couldn't be built on the surface of the planet, because there is nothing in the Star Trek universe to say that it couldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if they had on and off world construction sites. NASA does experiments in space with specific regards to making "things" in space, so the idea of something like that being done far off in the future is not so far fetched.

I bet the Wierd Science kids could have made a kick ass space babe if they made her in space- no gravity to pull things down! Someone should re-make that movie.
 
I bet the Wierd Science kids could have made a kick ass space babe if they made her in space- no gravity to pull things down! Someone should re-make that movie.

Probably not Joss Whedon...

Oh, I dunno. I never could make sense of that "take me where I cannot stand" lyric...





Well, the rumor going with these photos, based on the folks who witnessed all of this, is that the scene revolves around the delivery of the Enterprise to the Academy by the folks who built it. There's much running around and looking up at the sky, and possibly a landing of some very large vessel in the blue-screen area.

I can't imagine any way in which such a scenario might unnerve or upset canon-observant fans. Abrams and company have dodged another bullet. ;)
 
I just don't know. There's a trailer revealing a significantly redesigned Enterprise and what is getting bitched about? The locaction and the use of welding, of all things. WTF?

They have no need to 'explain' why the ship is built on Earth. Why would they? It follows cannon and makes fine technical sense. And even if it didn't, they still don't have to justify it. Plus it's probably not going to be in the movie, anyway.
 
I wonder though why are they using welding to put the ship together? Shouldn't there be a plasma-technobabble-thingamagick that would help construct the ship? It is the 23rd century after all!!
 
^ You can't know that, but you're beating a very dead horse with that. After the teaser came out there were LONG discussions on this board about the welding. Several theories emerged as to why they are welding on the Enterprise. One boils down to the teaser only being a metaphor which can't be taken literally. Another one was that the welders in the teaser are using a plasma (or whatever) welding technique that just looks like todays welding.
 
from what i have read in the past gene assumed the saucer section could land so who is to say that sections if not the saucer as a whole was built on earth and assembled in space.
 
Cogley's Theory: The Enterprise will be built planetside, and then thousands of giant rockets arranged all over the globe will be used to push the planet Earth out from underneath it.
 
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