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The Time Of The Doctor (Grading/Discussion)(SPOILERS!)

Grade "The Time Of The Doctor"

  • Geronimo!

    Votes: 64 30.5%
  • Fish Fingers and Custard

    Votes: 84 40.0%
  • Average

    Votes: 36 17.1%
  • Not Good

    Votes: 21 10.0%
  • Beans are evil. Bad bad beans! |

    Votes: 5 2.4%

  • Total voters
    210
  • Poll closed .
If I were writing the first episode, it wouldn't have anything to do with "The Time of the Doctor". It would be a standalone story set on present day Earth, where Clara has to defeat aliens while dragging along a less-than-helpful post-generation Doctor.


Well, we DO know that Clara met up with the Prime Minister, getting whatever clearance level, some time before TDoftD. We even saw pics of that. The Doctor wasn't visible in them.
 
(Role the background music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loYw3Nh3stI )

“We all change… When you think about it, we are all different people all through out our lives, and that’s OK, that’s good, you got to keep moving. So long as you remember all the people that you use to be. I will not forget one line of this, not one day, I swear. I will always remember when the Doctor was me. “



Goodbye 11...
 
(Role the background music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loYw3Nh3stI )

“We all change… When you think about it, we are all different people all through out our lives, and that’s OK, that’s good, you got to keep moving. So long as you remember all the people that you use to be. I will not forget one line of this, not one day, I swear. I will always remember when the Doctor was me. “



Goodbye 11...
Where is the Crying a River smiley when you need him?
 
I thought Spearhead from Space worked out great.

I've never seen Robot, so I can't comment on that one. I haven't a clue what Troughton was like in Power of the Daleks. Might be a great episode for all I know.

In Robot, Baker has about 10 minutes of instability and then straightens out and is new self for the rest of the ep. Some nice humor from Sarah Jane and the Brig as they get used to dealing with the less polished Bohemian Doc.
 
1 -2 went fairly smoothly. 2-3, the 3-4 were as well. On both occasions he was fine after a good rest. Maybe the fact that he had other Time Lords helping made it easier.

4-5 was the first time that regen sickness was a problem, and the first time he didn't have any help from the TL's or the Tardis.

5-6, well, we know how that went. Its possible that the poison in his system scrambled his cells.

6-7 and 7-8 weren't too bad. Like 3-4 with a bit of rest, he seemed to bounce back fairly well.

8-War Doctor-9, we'll probably never know. I wonder if like 11-12, the WD reset himself before changing?

9-10 a few minutes of insanity, followed by a long rest put him right.

10-11 Apart from a few minutes tormenting Amelia, also went fairly well.
 
I just realized both Matt Smith and Karen Gillian were bald and wearing wigs when they did their scene.

I'm still waiting for a picture of them wearing each other's wigs to pop up somewhere.
Knowing those two, it had to have happened.
 
1 -2 went fairly smoothly. 2-3, the 3-4 were as well. On both occasions he was fine after a good rest. Maybe the fact that he had other Time Lords helping made it easier.

I'm not sure I agree that 2-3 went well. I seem to recall him collapsing on his face and being in a hospital bed for quite some time.
 
1 -2 went fairly smoothly. 2-3, the 3-4 were as well. On both occasions he was fine after a good rest. Maybe the fact that he had other Time Lords helping made it easier.

I'm not sure I agree that 2-3 went well. I seem to recall him collapsing on his face and being in a hospital bed for quite some time.

He was a bit delirious when he stepped out of the TARDIS, but I think his time in the hospital bed was due to being grazed by a gunshot to the head, not the regeneration itself.
 
1 -2 went fairly smoothly. 2-3, the 3-4 were as well. On both occasions he was fine after a good rest. Maybe the fact that he had other Time Lords helping made it easier.

I'm not sure I agree that 2-3 went well. I seem to recall him collapsing on his face and being in a hospital bed for quite some time.

Well, I mean "went well" in that he wasn't running around channeling his previous selves, giggling like a lunatic, or strangling anyone. :)
 
It's not even original stories. It's adaptations of pre-existing material.
Doesn't make a difference. They aren't straight adaptations either. They have to update it for the 21st century. Lots of Movies and series have been made about Sherlock but not all of them have been as well made as this. That takes time and creativity and it's quite clever how they did it.
 
I enjoyed the finale and I don't get the hate. Thanks to BBCA reshowing classic Who episodes, I've come to be amazed that the show continued on for so long. Those past ones were mind boggling boring. It took me several days to watch them as I kept falling asleep. The 5th through 7th were the worst.To compare that drudgery to recent episodes and call it superior is nuts.
When it's a goodbye episode like this was, I expect a bunch of fanwank and nods to prior characters/plot lines. None of it was heavy handed or over the top so not sure of those complaints either.
Basically, anyone who hated the show is wrong! :)
 
I'm late to the party. Just watched the episode and really liked most parts of it. I was a bit surprised that so many here thought it was rushed, because the pacing felt just right for me. What I didn't like so much was the regeneration. That was a bit odd. Also, I didn't care much for Clara's family. But all in all I was very pleased with the episode.
 
Rushed might be the wrong word for it, it felt like half a series worth of plot squeezed into an hour, but despite that it mostly worked. It isn't Moffat's best episode of the year, and frankly Name/Time/Day of the Doctor are all better, but it isn't terrible, I just think those other eps set the bar pretty high, so in comparison it seems weaker.
 
I would say it feels rushed because there is so much exposition/narrative dialogue spouted at us. The whole Trenzalore, Doctor Who question, and fall of the 11th was told to the audience in the final minutes of Series 6. Series 6 which had strong plot direction and had a focus arc. The Doctor vs Silence syndicate. I myself and a lot of other people were expecting Series 7 to pick up on these plot threads but Series 7 just didn't.

Instead we got episodes like Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, The Power of Three, A Town Called Mercy, Rings of Akhaten, Hide, and The Crimson Horror. These are (IMO) the weakest episodes of Series 7. The time wasted on these episodes could've been used to further explore the Silence or the Doctor discovering what Trenzalore is. Instead it's all condensed into Matt Smith's swan song as the Doctor. Not bad, but there was potential for a bigger crescendo.
 
I just felt that it could have been structured better and the limited amount of time could have been better used to expand the main story than wasted on fluff (Clara's family, turkey, weeping angels). For example, a scene with Madam Kovarian questioning Tasha Lem's orders would have worked better than Tasha Lem explaining a chapel breaking off from the church.
 
I just hope Capaldi doesn't basically fall asleep like Davison and tenant did in their first episode. So boring. I'd like Capaldi to be a bit mad and "ecstatic" in his first episode, but I certainly don't want a repeat of "The Christmas Invasion" or "Castrovalva".
 
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