News The Thirteenth Doctor comic starts this autumn

[Allyn Gibson]

I like what you're saying about Twelfth. But what about Nine?

I don't have an opinion on the ninth Doctor comics. I've dutifully collected them, but I haven't read them, as Nine (and that era) isn't a particular favorite of mine. I started to read the first mini-series, then it went on hiatus for months, and I never picked it up again to read it. I always thought I'd get around to it, and I didn't. The mini-series and the ongoing series are sitting, unloved, in my longboxes. I did read his chapter of The Lost Dimension, though, and that was fine.

Also, it goes without question that Cornell redeems himself from the abhorent Four Doctors, which is thankful.

"Abhorent" is a rather strong word.

I liked Four Doctors a lot, right up until issue #5, when I thought it went completely off the rails. Oh, I get what Cornell was doing -- he ended the story with a giant Moffat pastiche (rapid-fire storytelling, timey-wimey nonsense, unearned feel-good ending) -- and he did it in such a way that he pushed a giant reset button on the entire story (so issues #1-4 were rendered pointless), and then had everyone forget about it at the end for good measure. And what Cornell did had implications for other stories, too -- if Cornell's interpretation of what happens in multi-Doctor events is correct, then does Eleven remember "The Day of the Doctor," does Five remember "The Five Doctors"? Coming on the heels of Tenth Doctor Year One and Eleventh Doctor Year One, both of which told interesting, meaninful stories, it was disappointing that Four Doctors, which started off important, made itself meaningless at the end.

 

[The Wormhole]

Not seeing the problem with people employed solely because of their gender shows that you are simply anti-egalitarian and support sexist practises.

Cool story, bro. Changed my life.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

"Abhorent" is a rather strong word.

I had a real hard time reading it. Sure, its not as bad as Frank Miller's output post-Robocop, but its still poor. And I expected better from Cornell.

I liked Four Doctors a lot, right up until issue #5, when I thought it went completely off the rails. Oh, I get what Cornell was doing -- he ended the story with a giant Moffat pastiche (rapid-fire storytelling, timey-wimey nonsense, unearned feel-good ending) -- and he did it in such a way that he pushed a giant reset button on the entire story (so issues #1-4 were rendered pointless), and then had everyone forget about it at the end for good measure. And what Cornell did had implications for other stories, too -- if Cornell's interpretation of what happens in multi-Doctor events is correct, then does Eleven remember "The Day of the Doctor," does Five remember "The Five Doctors"? Coming on the heels of Tenth Doctor Year One and Eleventh Doctor Year One, both of which told interesting, meaninful stories, it was disappointing that Four Doctors, which started off important, made itself meaningless at the end.

While you are right about the reset button in issue #5, my main problem with it was that Cornell seemingly didn't get Capaldi's Doctor. I just never could never hear his voice, and thus I never found his portrayal as authentic, and thus, never found the whole alternate Twelfth Doctor scenario at all convincing.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I had a real hard time reading it. Sure, its not as bad as Frank Miller's output post-Robocop, but its still poor. And I expected better from Cornell.

While you are right about the reset button in issue #5, my main problem with it was that Cornell seemingly didn't get Capaldi's Doctor. I just never could never hear his voice, and thus I never found his portrayal as authentic, and thus, never found the whole alternate Twelfth Doctor scenario at all convincing.

I can see where you're coming from. Cornell's twelfth Doctor is... well, I don't want to say "Malcolm Tucker in Space," but Cornell plays up the asshole in the Doctor, and that's true to the way Capaldi's played the role (or, rather, the way the role was written) in Series 8. When the tenth and twelfth Doctors meet again (in Tenth Doctor Year Three and The Lost Dimension), they have a much better relationship than the way Cornell portrays it.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

I can see where you're coming from. Cornell's twelfth Doctor is... well, I don't want to say "Malcolm Tucker in Space," but Cornell plays up the asshole in the Doctor, and that's true to the way Capaldi's played the role (or, rather, the way the role was written) in Series 8.

Early series 8. And even then, he was still fundamentally kind, like he was in Into the Dalek, when he trying to reach the Dalek, which arguably Doctors 7-10 never would (yes, even the hopeful 8!). It may have helped that Capaldi portrayed him with many different layers, enriching the text in ways Smith didn't have (as I always suspected Moffat wrote better for 11 than 12) and improving on the behaviour. Cornell's 12 seems like a bitter version of the Warrior, except he's the Doctor, and that's unacceptable.

When the tenth and twelfth Doctors meet again (in Tenth Doctor Year Three and The Lost Dimension), they have a much better relationship than the way Cornell portrays it.

I certainly loved the Doctor interactions in Lost Dimension. The panel with 9, 10 and 12 trying to steer that ship is wonderfully poignant. And the lovely page where 5 bumps into Jenny is also awesome, a lovely wink at real life, lol. They were all written fairly well in that crossover, the Doctors.

I certainly look forward for the rest of them. I'll let you know.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Not seeing the problem with people employed solely because of their gender shows that you are simply anti-egalitarian and support sexist practises. If three men were chosen for the same job, solely because of their gender, would you not see a problem there either?

Crying because women were chosen for a job only because they are women who work in that industry instead of looking at both male and female candidates and seeing which were best suited for the job.

As I say, it is possible that it is merely a coincidence the entire creative team were female, penning the first female Doctor's comicbook series, but given that circumstance and the fact it's being billed as "all female creative team", it strikes me it is quite likely that it is not a coincidence, but a deliberate choice.

One comic book with a women's team is the thin edge of the wedge that will make men 2nd class?

Who knew the fate of men in the modern Western world was so precarious?

 

[Turtletrekker]

I wonder of Thirteen will be included in the next big annual multi-Doctor crossover special?