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If I recall Kzini females were considered to be no more than dumb animals by their males. M'Ress speaking and looking female would probably phase some of them. They ignored Uhura because of that notion that all females were like theirs.
 
I think that, given the success of SW Clone Wars, Rebels etc, the failure of Trek to capitalise on animation is a bit strange. It would be one way to keep the original universe alive going forward (not all the original actors play their characters in SW) However, I'd happily watch more TOS stories, a second 5-year mission set after TMP, or a NuTrek series.

The only things that rankle slightly about TAS are the lack of variety among the voice actors, the absence of Chekov (and Rand, although she had departed early on, it would have been nice to see her back), due to budget constraints, and the duration of the stories. The cheesiness of the animation is a plus as far as I am concerned.

If the Thunderbirds reboot does well enough then who knows. The Sarah Jane Adventures stuck with a 2-part format that worked well. That would be my preference if they were to make a show like this today. Bring back cliff-hangers!
 
I *finally* saw TAS completely last year after many, many, many, MANY years imagining what it was like.

OK, enough of your critical thinking reaction as an adult... how cool was it to finally see TAS after many, many, MANY years?

I remember when that happened with me. I'd heard brief stories and mentions of TAS through the 70s, but I'd never saw it. I even concluded I'd never see it. Then, I think in 1985, Nickelodeon secured the rights and started showing TAS. '

I was 14. It was AWESOME!
 
It was very cool, but I was let down by Counter Clock Incident. I always knew this was the only apperance of Robert April and I had it built up in my head, but still nice to see.

I was mostly disappointed in the "sequels" to Mudd, Shore Leave, and Tribbles.

Aside from Yesteryear, I loved Beyond the Farthest Star.

I kinda need to watch them again now that I know what to expect in terms of animation and music.
 
Ah, there's another thing on my list since I signed up for Netflix to watch Daredevil. I've seen episodes over the years, but I've never watched through TAS, and it's been a long time. I was always a bit put off by its weaker qualities, but I feel like I'm missing out on an important little piece of Trek. Think I'll put one on now....
 
It was very cool, but I was let down by Counter Clock Incident. I always knew this was the only apperance of Robert April and I had it built up in my head, but still nice to see.

I was mostly disappointed in the "sequels" to Mudd, Shore Leave, and Tribbles.

Aside from Yesteryear, I loved Beyond the Farthest Star.

I kinda need to watch them again now that I know what to expect in terms of animation and music.

I had started playing Star Fleet Battles shortly before seeing "More Troubles, More Tribbles." I was really excited to see the stasis field generator in use.
 
At one point several (or more) years ago, prior to NuTrek, I was Googling about the Animated Series, and I came across a web site about a new Star Trek animated series. From the pictures on the site, the animation was similar to that used for TAS. I was excited about the look of it. It was going to be set in TAS times, but it was going to focus on the adventures of a different ship and crew, a Constitution-class sister ship to the Enterprise. I was really into it, but I've never heard anything more about it. I suspect the arrival of NuTrek might have killed it. At any rate, I can't find it by Googling anymore. Anyone know anything about this?
 
The best way to approach TAS is as little bite-sized pieces of Star Trek. They're never gonna have the 'depth' of a full hour-long episode of the main shows, with the exception of the likes of 'Yesteryear', but I find with TAS it's all about the atmosphere. They got the 'verse and the characters stunningly accurate to its live-action counterpart, which makes up for any other short-comings in a production sense IMHO. :)

It's the same with the likes of The Real Ghostbusters. That's another show that has it's pluses and minuses for sure, but the extent to which they accurately adapted the parent source movies' tone and style with very few major concessions to Saturday morning TV was admirable. TAS feels just like that to me. It shows great respect to what came before. Probably even more so than TRGB did. ;)
 
Be interesting to see an animated movie era series, or a hybrid Phase II series that uses a mix of element form the older TOS/TAS era and the movie era Enterprise.

I'd probably keep the older style uniforms as cartoons usually need color over the relatively drab TMP uniforms or the overly red TWOK uniforms. TMP bridge would work fine, as would the ship. Be nice to see what it was doing after TMP.
 
At one point several (or more) years ago, prior to NuTrek, I was Googling about the Animated Series, and I came across a web site about a new Star Trek animated series. From the pictures on the site, the animation was similar to that used for TAS. I was excited about the look of it. It was going to be set in TAS times, but it was going to focus on the adventures of a different ship and crew, a Constitution-class sister ship to the Enterprise. I was really into it, but I've never heard anything more about it. I suspect the arrival of NuTrek might have killed it. At any rate, I can't find it by Googling anymore. Anyone know anything about this?

Is this what you are talking about? The style is much different than the original and it was intended for the web so it may not be.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier
 
At one point several (or more) years ago, prior to NuTrek, I was Googling about the Animated Series, and I came across a web site about a new Star Trek animated series. From the pictures on the site, the animation was similar to that used for TAS. I was excited about the look of it. It was going to be set in TAS times, but it was going to focus on the adventures of a different ship and crew, a Constitution-class sister ship to the Enterprise. I was really into it, but I've never heard anything more about it. I suspect the arrival of NuTrek might have killed it. At any rate, I can't find it by Googling anymore. Anyone know anything about this?

Is this what you are talking about? The style is much different than the original and it was intended for the web so it may not be.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier

...and Star Trek: Final Frontier and the adventures of the Enterprise and Captain Alexander Chase were to take place 200-300 years after TOS.
 
At one point several (or more) years ago, prior to NuTrek, I was Googling about the Animated Series, and I came across a web site about a new Star Trek animated series. From the pictures on the site, the animation was similar to that used for TAS. I was excited about the look of it. It was going to be set in TAS times, but it was going to focus on the adventures of a different ship and crew, a Constitution-class sister ship to the Enterprise. I was really into it, but I've never heard anything more about it. I suspect the arrival of NuTrek might have killed it. At any rate, I can't find it by Googling anymore. Anyone know anything about this?

Perhaps this fan-made effort? http://www.startrekanimated.com/tas_farragut.html
 
At one point several (or more) years ago, prior to NuTrek, I was Googling about the Animated Series, and I came across a web site about a new Star Trek animated series. From the pictures on the site, the animation was similar to that used for TAS. I was excited about the look of it. It was going to be set in TAS times, but it was going to focus on the adventures of a different ship and crew, a Constitution-class sister ship to the Enterprise. I was really into it, but I've never heard anything more about it. I suspect the arrival of NuTrek might have killed it. At any rate, I can't find it by Googling anymore. Anyone know anything about this?

Is this what you are talking about? The style is much different than the original and it was intended for the web so it may not be.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier

Not this one...
 
At one point several (or more) years ago, prior to NuTrek, I was Googling about the Animated Series, and I came across a web site about a new Star Trek animated series. From the pictures on the site, the animation was similar to that used for TAS. I was excited about the look of it. It was going to be set in TAS times, but it was going to focus on the adventures of a different ship and crew, a Constitution-class sister ship to the Enterprise. I was really into it, but I've never heard anything more about it. I suspect the arrival of NuTrek might have killed it. At any rate, I can't find it by Googling anymore. Anyone know anything about this?

Perhaps this fan-made effort? http://www.startrekanimated.com/tas_farragut.html

...but, yeah, this might very well be the one. Thanks!
 
TAS has some of the best storylines. It stands to reason as they were no longer limited by budget constraints so they could really get imaginative with setting and character.

This has got me to thinking. Seeing as reboots have been and continue to be all of the rage, wouldn't it be nice to bring back TAS but as a live action series?

I'm normally not a CGI fan, but I could see it working well for this.
Hello I have been lurking on this site for a while now. I joined today just to comment on this quote. Yes, this is a wonderful idea. I have been thinking about this for quite a while now. A live action version of TAS. Expand them to an hour in length and have them ready for the 50th anniversary in 2016. I also would have them do live action versions of the computer games from the 1990s, 25th anniversary edition, Judgment Rites and the unreleased Secret of Vulcan Fury. The final two seasons/years of the original 5 year mission just in time for the big anniversary in 2016.
 
But He-Man had a completely distinct, electronic score provided by Shuki Levy, Haim Saban, and Lou Scheimer (under the pseudonym Erika Lane). Not a single note of Ellis and Prescott's music was ever used in He-Man.

That is incorrect. Some of Filmation's 1970s action cues were used on He-Man & BraveStarr. All He-Man music were not 100% original compositions.


The way Filmation worked -- the way most cartoons at the time worked -- was that a library of stock cues was created for each show at the beginning and tracked in all its episodes. So yes, the TAS cues were stock from the beginning, in that they were not written for specific scenes in specific episodes, but just as general cues to fit particular moods and tones
That is not a technical classification of "stock music." Riddle, May and others composed themes for the Batman ('66) TV series, which in turn, ended up repeatedly used throughout the 120 episodes, but no one classifies that as "stock music," (even within the series) as the music--when first composed--was designed to fit specific scenes, characters, etc., in equally specific episodes.

For a few true stock music examples, look to the Capitol Library or KPM tracks and others--the work used liberally on US & UK TV series & movies of the 60s (ex. The Fugitive, , Dr. Who, Spider-Man, etc.) as most of that work was truly composed to fit moods and not any particular series or scene in mind. The same applies to the work of Ib Glindemann, who composed random music which ended up used to memorable effect in The Fugitive and the original Night of the Living Dead.

Unless Prescott, Scheimer, et al., stated no TAS cues were initially created for specific scenes, one must consider the TAS main theme (and its melody incorporated in various cues--also original to the series), were not "stock" in such a loose sense.

Another example of Filmation creating distinct scores for scenes in a series dates back to The New Adventures of Superman, with action or comedic music using the Superman theme. However, when the production continued in '67 as The Superman / Aquaman Hour of Adventure, some of that music (like TAS in the years to come) became true stock cues when used in the guest segments (Flash, Teen Titans, Hawkman, and others).

TAS is part of the five year mission that takes place after TOS and before the events of TMP. So, yes TAS has always been important to me ever since I watched it first-run as a very young boy in '73-'74 along with reruns of TOS.

Agreed.
 
There's a huge nostalgia factor in TAS for me that still carries over to today. I was already hooked on Star Trek by TOS when TAS came out, but I'd seen only some of TOS, and TOS was airing very irregularly at the time. I was brought deeper into Star Trek by TAS.

If I were to rank all episodes of Star Trek, the best and the worst would not be TAS episodes. Many, such as "Beyond the Farthest Star," "Yesteryear," "One of Our Planets Is Missing," "The Time Trap," and "The Slaver Weapon," would be nowhere near the bottom.

Same here: I had watched about half of the TOS episodes - but dubbed (and dumbed-down) into German. TAS was the first series that I could follow in the original version - some on the TV screen of my British friend, some by listening to the tapes he made and sent me afterwards.

Christoph
 
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