Dunno about the comics, but the explanation given in Star Trek Online is, that the shockwave unexpectedly traveled through subspace, increasing in strength proportional to the amount of annihilated matter in its wake.I'd also like to know if the comics successflly manage to apply any Trek scientific logic to the phenomenon.
The guys who wrote the script are pretty big fans of Trek who not only watched the shows but develed into the novels for ideas. So I think they might know their canon.The science is actually on our side on this one... Whatever properties this fictional red matter has, if seeding of black holes is one of them, then it really is likely to be a good supernova pacifier.
As in nearly all of the film, Here again the science is pretty far off: shock waves from supernova only travel at about 10% of the speed of light, meaning it would take hours for such a shock wave to travel from our own star to the earth. If we sent something to our nearest stellar neighbor at .1c, today’s babies could easily be having great-grandchildren by the time it arrived, 42 years later. Further, we might reasonably suspect that any red matter would need to be delivered at or near the center of the nova, (we will ignore problems of travelling into the supernova remnant and across a “galaxy threatening” shockwave), thus: travelling at the speed of light, the effect would need 4.62 more years to reach and effect the advancing shock wave, depending on the wave’s thickness.
Torturing the language is less productive to me than simply recognizing that the script was hammered out by people who had little time to know or care about science, ST canon, the military, logic or consistency.
The guys who wrote the script are pretty big fans of Trek who not only watched the shows but develed into the novels for ideas. So I think they might know their canon.
When errors would those be? Most of the film takes place in an alternate reality where "canon" is not a factor. . What are the internal contradictions?The guys who wrote the script are pretty big fans of Trek who not only watched the shows but develed into the novels for ideas. So I think they might know their canon.
Although the film shows little evidence of this, they might.
Nevertheless, when considering the number of canonical errors as well as internal contradictions in the film itself, and the schedule for the writers, schedule constraints seem the most likely primary cause for the poor quality of writing, of the theories I've heard.
Most of the film takes place in an alternate reality where "canon" is not a factor
My standard example is in the first minute with visuals contradicting the dialog about looks of the anomaly out of visual range, next the CHIEF engineer says he's "never seen anything like" a "knocked-out warp drive", and in the next sixty seconds, Robau issues a number of poorly defined orders which are disobeyed, and ill-advised orders (also unclear about "autopilot"), enemy mining ships can now take over Starfleet viewscreens, and the film goes on and on with such nonsensical and completely unnecessary errors easily prevented with some time and care spent on thinking about the writing, which was put on a crash schedule according to Abrams. His team seems spread far too thin to do a good job, and this film has a steady stream of flaws one would expect from someone pulling an all-nighter to finish the paper and no time to rework the mistakes in either plot or dialog.What are the internal contradictions?
I don't remember that film very well, just a few good SFX and the redemption of HAL, but I have to wonder how the book treated the plot...It's Hollywood writing in general. I think a lot of Americans have become desensitised to drivel. In '2010' you had very similar leaps of illogic. So instead of having some engineers on duty in engineering, they get passengers to do the work and unqualified people to run all the way down from the bridge to help them. They then spend time hugging while a woman is slowly drowning in the next chamber and the crew stares blankly at a screen before cheering inanely when they should be steering the ship. Crazy dumb.
I don't remember that film very well, just a few good SFX and the redemption of HAL, but I have to wonder how the book treated the plot...It's Hollywood writing in general. I think a lot of Americans have become desensitised to drivel. In '2010' you had very similar leaps of illogic. So instead of having some engineers on duty in engineering, they get passengers to do the work and unqualified people to run all the way down from the bridge to help them. They then spend time hugging while a woman is slowly drowning in the next chamber and the crew stares blankly at a screen before cheering inanely when they should be steering the ship. Crazy dumb.
Desensitized seems a good explanation for much of the failure to perceive significant contradiction and breaches of common sense that literally gush onto the screen during the 90-odd minutes of this film.
LOL - my bad - I mean 2012. Trashy disaster movie. Arthur C Clarke is usually quite sensible.
Would you seriously want others to judge you this way and mislead or miseducate you so that you wouldn't be scared?Anything more complicated would have scared potential audience members away,
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