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Actually that doesn't make any sense at all. There's no reason to assume that aliens would fall into the same taxonomic categories as Earthly life forms. That's as illogical as assuming that alien planets would have the same continents and rivers and mountain ranges as Earth.

But such planets do exist in Star Trek.
 
^My point is that it's illogical to assume that any alien that resembles an Earthly form has to be biologically identical to that Earthly form. I'm not saying it's can't be, given the established Trek conceit of a shared evolutionary heritage. I'm merely pointing out the flaw in the unexamined assumption that a similar appearance to an Earthly form requires it to be identical in every other way. If someone writes a Trek story in which a reptilian-appearing alien species is reptilian in its entire biology, that can be justified given the conceits of the Trek universe. But if someone writes a Trek story in which a reptilian-appearing species is actually very unlike reptiles in its biological specifics (and Cardassians are a clear example of this, since they're obviously mammalian in a lot of ways), nobody can validly say that's wrong or impossible.
 
Why shouldn't the Gorn lay eggs, they are lizards, after all? As a general rule Trek does try to be at least somewhat realistic when it comes to this kind of stuff, so it only makes sense that it's lizard races would behave like real lizards do.

Actually that doesn't make any sense at all. There's no reason to assume that aliens would fall into the same taxonomic categories as Earthly life forms. That's as illogical as assuming that alien planets would have the same continents and rivers and mountain ranges as Earth. Just because an alien species happens to bear a surface resemblance to a Terrestrial category of life, it doesn't follow that the specifics of its biology or behavior would correspond to that category.

Even on Earth, one can't always make blanket generalizations about species based on their broad appearance. Some dinosaurs gave live birth. For that matter, so do many actual lizards.

I knew that, and I'm a musician.

Pike stabbed an illusuion.
 
Pike stabbed an illusuion.


Based on his memory of an actual event.

The point being, swords and knives appear in Star Trek sometimes--but don't turn science fiction into horror.

Heck, the Klingons are quite handy with swords in "The Day of The Dove" and the Vulcans have some nasty edged weapons in "Amok Time." And a green Orion girl tries to stab Kirk in "Whom Gods Destroy."

And isn't there a swordfight in "The Squire of Gothos" as well?
 
Pike stabbed an illusuion.


Based on his memory of an actual event.

The point being, swords and knives appear in Star Trek sometimes--but don't turn science fiction into horror.

Heck, the Klingons are quite handy with swords in "The Day of The Dove" and the Vulcans have some nasty edged weapons in "Amok Time." And a green Orion girl tries to stab Kirk in "Whom Gods Destroy."

And isn't there a swordfight in "The Squire of Gothos" as well?

Agreed on all points.
 
^Along with Gamesters of Triskelion and Bread and Circuses. Also Way of the Warrior every Worf Bat'leth episode. He used a blade to dispatch a Borg in First Contact even.
 
If Spock was stabbed in Bread and Circuses, would it have made it a better episode? He was shot by a flintlock in A Private Little War and red shirts were zapped and stabbed routinely all dying in horrible ways but they didn't belabor the point.
 
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If Spock was stabbed in Bread and Circuses, would it have made it a better episode? He was shot by aflintlock in By any other name and red shirts were zapped and stabbed routinely all dying in horrible ways but they didn't belabor the point.

A Private Little War
 
Xortex.

It is almost a 400 page book.

You are judging it based on the first 5 pages.

Proportionally, it is literally as if you watched the first 30 seconds of an episode of some TV show and decided it was awful. Or if you walked out on a movie in the first 75 seconds.
 
If Spock was stabbed in Bread and Circuses, would it have made it a better episode? He was shot by a flintlock in A Private Little War and red shirts were zapped and stabbed routinely all dying in horrible ways but they didn't belabor the point.

But what's the big deal about someone getting stabbed in the first place? Why is that even an issue? People die all sorts of ways in Star Trek adventures. What makes a stabbing a deal-breaker?

As the Klingons say: "Four thousand throats can be cut in one night by a running man."
 
Your right, Mr. Cox and I certaibly have no problem with your work as I've heard and keep hearing it's very good as well as the other stuff but the concentration should be on science fiction, not murder or even the science, for me for that matter, and you're forgetting that I am a Klingon.
 
but the concentration should be on science fiction, not murder or even the science,

And what, exactly, makes you think that the concentration in Rough Beasts of Empire was on murder?

And what, exactly, does "concentrating on science fiction" mean?
 
I am new here.

Whats the difference between Trek book-comic continuity and the SW EU?

I read 3 Gorkon stories which consistent what i know about Trek.

Anything else worth reading?

Now i am thinking about an SCE Dominion war stories book.

Is it going to contradict what i had previously read and seen ?

I watched: TNG, DS9, TOS, Voyager, ENT and almost all the movies.
 
I am new here.

Whats the difference between Trek book-comic continuity and the SW EU?

Most Trek books are consistent with one-another, but there's no requirement for them to be, and some deliberately contradict one-another.
 
I am new here.

Whats the difference between Trek book-comic continuity and the SW EU?

In the case of Star Wars, all the licensed tie-ins are obligated to treat all other tie-ins as part of the same continuity, even when they contradict each other. There's a pretense that it's all a unified whole, but new screen productions freely contradict what the books and comics have done.

In the case of Star Trek, licensed tie-ins are only obligated to remain consistent with onscreen canon. Continuity among tie-ins is optional. As a result, there are multiple continuities within the tie-ins. There's a primary continuity shared by the majority of the novels published over the past decade, and it includes a small number of comics as well. There are a couple of novel series that have their own separate continuities, and various standalone novels as well. The comics generally strike an independent path from the novels, and indeed the current comics licensee, IDW, publishes various miniseries which aren't necessarily in continuity with one another (although the ones written/illustrated by John Byrne all cross-reference one another). There's also the Star Trek Online computer game which has created yet another separate continuity, borrowing some ideas from the novel continuity but contradicting it in quite a few ways.


I read 3 Gorkon stories which consistent what i know about Trek.
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Now i am thinking about an SCE Dominion war stories book.

Is it going to contradict what i had previously read and seen ?

I watched: TNG, DS9, TOS, Voyager, ENT and almost all the movies.

Gorkon and SCE are part of the same primary novel continuity, and indeed the writer of the Gorkon novels, Keith R. A. DeCandido, was also the editor of the SCE series. So they are consistent with one another. And as I said, all tie-ins are required to stay consistent with onscreen Star Trek, except for things that are explicitly labeled as alternate-history tales like the Myriad Universes anthologies.
 
Could somebody link me list that shows how many different timelines are out there?

There isn't one. It's not that formally defined. And there are cases where you wouldn't get universal agreement among the fans about what fits in the same timeline and what doesn't. There's a lot of room for individual interpretation.

So just read what you want, enjoy what you enjoy, and decide for yourself what fits together.
 
If it was written after the year 2000, Yevetha, it will probably (not always, but usually) be part of the same continuity as most other Trek books written after 2000. There's no actual term for this continuity because it's not official or controlled, but we usually just call it the "mainstream continuity" or the "Novel Verse" or something like that. :)

Welcome to the board, by the way. You've emerged from the Koornacht Cluster to scourge us of the impure, I presume ;)
 
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