Maybe but we still got to see Darth Vadar and Peter Cushing and Leia. Also the movie is basically just fan fiction in trying to explain away the open port on the Death Star and show how the alliance got that info. It was intresting fan fiction for sure but it still relies a lot on the Classic movies to be popular. Maybe it's more acurate to wonder how successful the movies will be the more they move away from having to do stuff that ties into the classic movies.
The only reason that audiences care about the Empire and the Rebels is because the Original Trilogy was so well executed. If the Sequel Trilogy maintains a high level of quality and proves at least as entertaining to at least as many people, people will care about the First Order and the Resistance to the same degree. After only one film, it's really unfair to expect the Sequel Trilogy to be as beloved as the Original Trilogy. The Original Trilogy was not one film, it was three, and the original film alone was utterly groundbreaking. People who weren't alive at the time can't really appreciate just how monumentally revolutionary the original Star Wars film was when it was released. Give the Sequel Trilogy time to catch up.
I agree and I was including all of the original movies and not just the first one. I think the new characters have also been well done but I still feel they are sort of working with a safety net by having so many familiar stuff in the films. I'm not really thinking about the episode 8 or 9 but more about future stand alone movies or even this idea of going back in the past even way before the prequels.
I really wish that hadn't happened as well. I'm still in for TLJ.
Agree to disagree then. I'm glad you enjoyed them for that
Of course people aren't going to be as into the new characters, very very few characters ever reach the iconic level of characters like Luke, Leia, and Han and honestly I find it kind of unfair to critisize the new movies for not being at that level. But I think it's pretty clear from the reactions people have to Daisy Ridley, John Boyega and Oscar Isaac at places like Celebration and the comic-cons that people do give a fuck about Rey, Finn and Poe. Since TFA came out I've seen just as plenty of merchandise with them on it, so obviously there is at least some level of interest there.
That was a one time thing for TFA, which they did on purpose to try to ease fans back into this version of the Star Wars, it does appear that they'll be moving away from that with The Last Jedi and EPIX.
The OT lifted from many sources, including 1930s serials, samurai movies, and westerns. And also, there's also NNUTS to consider (Nothing New Under The Sun). There's no such thing as true originality, all the stories have been told, everything's a regurgitation in some manner or another.
You're just playing Devil's Advocate. My last post shows you just how uninspired the ST is.
The stuff you're talking about is just the basic surface elements, what really matters is how the smaller elements play out, and we still don't know how happen in TLJ or EPIX.
