• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

The stand alone films are far superior

WraithDukat

Captain
Captain
So I finally went to see Solo (on my Solo) and it wiped the floor with EP 8, the same with Rogue One - it was superior to EP 7 in every respect and I would go as far as to say its the best one since Empire.

Do other people prefer the stand alone movies? I find it hard to fathom that these are getting canned but there are new trilogies in the works.
 
One of them got canned. Apparently one we’d never even heard of.

Wouldnt be surprised if the gaps between them got longer though. Disney is gonna have a lot of content to space out over the next decade or so.

Also, no. I don’t. They’re fine, but I actually go back and forth on whether I even enjoy them as much as TPM and ROTS.

(And yes, I know both are technically better than the prequels. I’m a complicated and frequently contradictory person, not blind.)
 
Last edited:
Wouldnt be surprised if the gaps between them got longer though. Disney is gonna have a lot of content to space out over the next decade or so.
Do you think we're not going to be getting a movie a year then or are you thinking that the "two"? new trilogies will just be filling that gap?
I've heard two guys from GOT and Rian are both gearing up for non numbered trilogies but I haven't heard anything about how far away they are estimated to be and just kind of expected them to be a fair distance off.
 
Do you think we're not going to be getting a movie a year then or are you thinking that the "two"? new trilogies will just be filling that gap?
I've heard two guys from GOT and Rian are both gearing up for non numbered trilogies but I haven't heard anything about how far away they are estimated to be and just kind of expected them to be a fair distance off.

Basically. Even with IX in the bag, we’re still theoretically looking at a point where there will be three different ‘strands’ of Star Wars having to fit in theatres.

Assuming they don’t just bag the standalone at that point, and Solo scared them off trying the Marvel approach just yet.

And I just saw that I wrote TMP instead of TPM. Get that Star Trek out of my Star Wars!:lol:
 
Oh I can see how it would get crowded I just kind of assumed we'd have a bit of a run on "stories" before the new trilogies start. Maybe it's the way they've been chucking names around like Kenobi and Fett or maybe it's the fact that we haven't heard much of these new trilogies since their initial announcement. Cast, time period, etc etc.
Sorry I could just be reading far too much into what you wrote I just didn't see them going away any time soon. Of course the box office fall out of Solo could change that but I haven't kept up with it and just know that there are some calling it a decent movie, some said it's done okay and others saying it's not don well and others saying that it was a bomb large enough to dwarf the xplosion of star killer base.
 
So I finally went to see Solo (on my Solo) and it wiped the floor with EP 8, the same with Rogue One - it was superior to EP 7 in every respect and I would go as far as to say its the best one since Empire.

Do other people prefer the stand alone movies? I find it hard to fathom that these are getting canned but there are new trilogies in the works.

I much prefer both standalone movies to the two sequel trilogy films released so far. I thought RO was excellent, and Solo was not far behind in my view.

TFA I thought was just OK, and I think TLJ is by far the worst SW movie ever made.

It's a shame Solo has tanked, as I was looking forward to more side films.
 
I think I'd enjoy the side films if they were less fleshing out "key" moments and more new stories. I don't care how Han got the Falcon or met Chewie just give me a fun heist movie with Han, Chewie and Lando. Or you know head to a different part of the galaxy in a different point in time. I think that's why I'm really only hanging around to see what the two new trilogies will be like.
 
No. The side films are just fanwank.

While I agree, I get that some actually like fanwank. Me? I'd rather be challenged in going new directions. This video pretty much syncs with my ideas on Rogue One:

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

But, some people like AT-STs! :p
 
No. The side films are just fanwank.
I think there is a middle ground here... :lol:
The stand alone films are designed to appeal to Star Wars fans, which is a rather sizable group of people.
The "main" films are designed to be broader in appeal, to draw more fans to the franchise.
 
You say that like it’s a bad thing.

I, for one, believe that while some references to past things are fine, there's a balancing act. Solo was extremely entertaining and fun, sure, and unless you are steeped in Star Wars lore, you're not going to get a lot of those references. Many flew right over my head. Rogue One, on the other hand, was full of "Hey, remember..." moments. It was a little too much, in my opinion. When Artoo and Threepio came on the screen, the audience laughed. I just shook my head. That was the last straw for me. And I think it would have been fine had before that we hadn't had idiotic things like the Cantina "I have the death sentence on twelve systems!" guys earlier in the movie. Some of them made sense: Tarkin, the Death Star, obviously, and Red and Gold Leaders, but even with Vader mowing down the Rebels at the end, I half expected him to turn and wink at the camera. It was a cool moment, sure, but completely unnecessary and just stuck out like a sore thumb.
 
...to appeal to Star Wars fans, which is a rather sizable group of people.

Is it though?

Qymmvcl.png
 
I could post a picture of Rogue One's BO receipts, but it would have the same problem as your pic (tiny, tiny, tiny sample size).

My point is: Rogue One had the distinction of being the first of these standalones, and honestly, there was probably some audience confusion as to what this story was really going to be all about. I've posted before about how my wife thought that it was going to be another adventure with Rey and Finn and the gang. And she lives in a house with a pretty big Star Wars nerd. When you have a release like this (even when you have a vocal minority of the fanbase who are "boycotting Solo" because of a previous entry in the franchise), that isn't well-marketed, and has a lot of controversy around it, and is a movie that, really, not a lot of people are clamoring for, who are you really going to be bringing into the theater with this one? A big percentage of a fanbase (that has a lot of casual fans)? Or just your die-hard fans (minus the "boycotters")?
 
Last edited:
My point is: Rogue One had the distinction of being the first of these standalones, and honestly, there was probably some audience confusion as to what this story was really going to be all about. I've posted before about how my wife thought that it was going to be another adventure with Rey and Finn and the gang. And she lives in a house with a pretty big Star Wars nerd. When you have a release like this (even when you have a vocal minority of the fanbase who are "boycotting Solo" because of a previous entry in the franchise), that isn't well-marketed, and has a lot of controversy around it, and is a movie that, really, not a lot of people are clamoring for, who are you really going to be bringing into the theater with this one? A big percentage of a fanbase (that has a lot of casual fans)? Or just your die-hard fans (minus the "boycotters")?
The debate that no doubt is being had at Lucasfilm/Disney.
 
The debate that no doubt is being had at Lucasfilm/Disney.

There's a threshhold obviously, and if Disney wants to make money on these "Star Wars Stories," I imagine they're going to need to lower their budgets on them. Not that that's a bad thing. It allows for some real creativity from directors as opposed to just throwing more money towards the screen. I'd love to see what someone can do with a $90 million budget on a Star Wars film.
 
but even with Vader mowing down the Rebels at the end, I half expected him to turn and wink at the camera. It was a cool moment, sure, but completely unnecessary and just stuck out like a sore thumb.
Coupled with characters that were difficult to connect with, and there is a reason that Rogue 1 is not high on my list. I hated that Vader scene.
 
Do other people prefer the stand alone movies? I find it hard to fathom that these are getting canned but there are new trilogies in the works.
0. I'm an old fan. My 6 year old butt was in the seat for Star Wars in 1978 in Muskogee, Oklahoma.
1. I love all new Star Wars movies equally. I love Epsiodes 7 & 8 as much as the two stand alones.
2. I dispute your notion that the stand alone movies are getting canned. I have not seen any official reputable source who has said anything of the kind. Actually, they've said the opposite. I would expect it is more accurate that they are reassessing:
a. Their director selection process,
b. How much they spend on each movie,
c. The release schedule.​
3. Even if they were getting canned, you cannot fathom why the movies that made more money are being kept by the studio, and the movies that made less are the ones being "canned?"
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top