The Spore Drive Technology. What Do You Think About It?
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Based upon what, exactly?
Grimes Industries invented the replicator. The company was founded in the early 21st Century by Richard "Rick" Grimes. Rick awoke from a coma with a nightmare of an post-apocalyptic future. He quit his job as a law enforcement officer and turned his attention to weapons development. Grimes Industries was a key factor in humanity's survival of the Eugenics Wars and the Post Atomic Horror. And of course was the major backer of Cochrane's Phoenix Project.
Wasn't the war six months old when we first saw Discovery. In addition to repair of damaged ships and ramping up production of ships already scheduled, there are the resources to design a new ship class build and shakedown cruise in six months? Unlikely.
Stamats and company had been working on the theory for 12 years by that point. His team and research are taken over by Starfleet after the war starts and they put it to the test on two large science vessels that may or may not be brand new. It is entirely possible that the hanger bay was brand new as they needed a new one to replace the original once they slotted in the Spore Drive and fungal growth room.
How do we have common sense for something we currently cannot construct? For all we know, the production was rushed due to the impending war or it was already in process and retrofitted.
Not saying it wouldn't be difficult, but there were concepts in the TOS era that Starfleet vessels were a bit more modular, and using similar components in different configurations.
But, I'll concede that it is probably unlikely. I just don't think it's impossible. But, I've also been listening to Scotty for a while too
It's just filed away with all the other Starfleet "magic" tech
There is no reason to believe that the ship did not exist in some form prior to the war. Granted, Stamets' himself was commandeered to make his technology work in a functioning war vessel, but it could be that the vessel itself existed before the war as a secret test vehicle.
The war may have only caused them to decide to retrofit the pre-existing testbed vessel for battle and press it into service.
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By the way, there are examples in real life during WWII of ship building being hastened along very quickly due to the need. Some ships (such as the Liberty ships) that normally would have taken 9 months to almost a year to build were being built on average at a rate of every 2 months. And I stressed "on average" because some were built in a couple of weeks.
So, yeah -- wartime shipbuilding could be immensely sped up relative to normal shipbuilding times if resources are focused.
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Crossfield class already existed, most likely. We've just seen two example. As far as how much time is enough, how knows how long it takes to refit or build that class from scratch. Transferring the forest, spore drive and adding the spinning things to Discovery might not have taken too long.
When you have to do something, and the funding is thrown your way, it really has a way of reducing deadlines. Case in point, look at the United States in World War II and look at how many fighter aicraft went from paper drawings to operational combat aircraft in short time. Now the process is a decades long ordeal.
Again, historical: Apollo program managed to get its goals done within a decade. Constellation/Orion and its lackluster successor SLS/Orion are still being built, will take almost 15 years to do anything (and that not very much), and don't even have a clearly defined goal now. The funding and the will were not there.
I like the way you think. But YES, it is.
It's not the problem of the fungus. A mere fungus on multiple planes of existence would truly fit into Star Trek. But all the other, strange things you just counted have one(!) thing in common: They are rare. In real life, we don't know any aliens, who knows, maybe they have DNA? Or how much gene-splicing will advance in the future. We just can't rule out such things exist somewhere, that's the beauty in exploration.
The problem is not the space funghi. The problem is the mycelium network. If such thing would exist, and span the entirety of the galaxy, and also be accessible, for some things (the tardigrade) even without technology, there is no plausible explanation on why we haven't already discovered it.
This is all of course just suspension of desbelief, and as such varyies from person to person. But I have far less problems with some exotic weirdness found in the vast corners of space - because we already have weird things on Earth. There exists a type of fish that can leave water and climb walls, inside a cave, from puddle to puddle! This thing shouldn't exist. But it does. But only in one, specific, large carge region.
But it gets problematic if you introduce new universal concepts on a whim: Warp drive destroying subspace. Warp 10 being "infinite speed" and leading so space salamander sex. Fast travel through a space shroom network. That shit usually destroys believability fast. Which is an extra serious problem if your show takes itself as serious as Discovery does. I would have beared it for a single episode without complaints (like Spock's brain). But if your entire season arc depends on it, it sticks out like a sore thumb.
took a couple of centuries between Newton's Principia and LIGO discovering gravity waves.
Honestly, it's all a matter of how they tie it up. Since the season is done yet, the question will remain how it fits in to canon, because there are several avenues by which it can be neutralized or ignored forever.
Has to be neuteralize,so it could not be used against. Then forgotten over time.
Doesn't "have to be." Star Trek has ignored so many technologies over the years it would be more Star Trek if they didn't do anything with it.
Yes, but their existence was already known as soon as Einstein figured out relativity.
The problem of the mycellium network is basically, that it has needed to have existed since millions of years, so that tardigrades can have evolved the means to travel it. There is NO WAY, in all those millions of years, no tardigrades, spores or anything else ever made it to Earth, or that such subspace-openings wouldn't ever have been noticed. As such, the existence of the mycellium network not only clashes with previous established canon (that would have been fine), but with what WE already know about our universe.
If it exists,some other empire would try to make it work for them.
Didn't happen with the Genesis device, even though the Klingons had the full debriefing on it.
I Doubt they learned anything technical enough to try. It has Ben be defunct,so it is not referenced in the future.
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