The Snowmen Grading and Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by The Grinch Doctor, Dec 25, 2012.


How do you rate The Snowmen?

  1. God bless us, every one! (Fantastic)

  2. Full of Christmas cheer (Very Good)

  3. Not a classic, but jolly good fun (Good)

  4. Not enough Robot Santas (Fair)

  5. Bah humbug! (Terrible)

  1. Worf2DS9

    Worf2DS9 Writer Rear Admiral

    Aug 15, 2001
    Canada, eh
    Actually the theme arrangement was definitely changed along with the visuals. I'm not sure how I feel about the theme right now; I'll have to listen to it properly once I'm back home. The new title sequence is a nice change, though not particularly amazing. Smith's face is hardly there at all (blink and you miss him), but overall the whole new look is a nice change, including the TARDIS doors opening on the post-credits scene.

    Loved Jenna-Louise (would have preferred Victorian Clara to be the companion), loved seeing Vastra & Jenny again (spin-off please!), and Strax was surprisingly amusing. The snowman plot was a little tame compared to all the good stuff (oh, including the new interior!), but overall a very enjoyable special.

    Bring on 7-B! (SPACE here didn't show a preview clip of the rest of the season, so I guess I'll have to catch that on YouTube)
  2. Skywalker

    Skywalker Admiral Admiral

    Feb 24, 2005
    Well, I thought that was fantastic. The resolution was probably a little lame, but I think the rest of the episode far outweighs that one small part of it. Strax is freaking hilarious and I hope we see him more often. And Jenna-Louise Coleman was excellent. She and Matt Smith have some tremendous chemistry together. I can't wait to see more of Clara, and I find this little mystery surrounding her rather intriguing. This may be my favorite of all the Christmas specials so far. I was supremely entertained from start to finish.

    And so begins the long wait for Spring. :(
  3. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Admiral Premium Member

    Mar 2, 2003
    San Francisco Bay Area, CA
    Ok, I definitely didn't notice. Thought it sounded the same.
  4. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

    Dec 18, 1999
    I have to say that I'm relieved that we didn't get a Victorian companion.
  5. Scrooge

    Scrooge Admiral Admiral

    Feb 22, 2007
    So how long do we have to wait for another episode now?
  6. The Mirrorball Man

    The Mirrorball Man Vice Admiral Admiral

    Dec 18, 1999
    Four months.
  7. VDCNI

    VDCNI Captain Captain

    May 26, 2009
    London UK
    Overnight ratings are 7.59m - nothing special but all ratings look to be down year on year and it beat Downton and Call The Midwife.
  8. gturner

    gturner Admiral

    Nov 9, 2005
    I'm thinking Sarah is Helena Bonham Carter with prettier eyes, a cuter nose, and dimples to die for.
  9. Orac Zen

    Orac Zen Mischief Manager Super Moderator

    Mar 14, 2000
    Enjoyable - first Christmas special of the lot I can remember actually liking, in fact - but still nothing spectacular and let down by the "human emotion saves the day" ending, which was weak in the extreme.

    I'm still not convinced about Clara but Coleman and the excellent-as-always Smith seem to work well together. The soufflé bit was a very nice touch and I am somewhat curious as to who and what Clara is, but she's nothing out of the ordinary thus far.

    Not sure about the rearranged theme music but I liked the visuals. Liked the new interior and the TARDIS-on-a-cloud bit just...worked. "It's smaller on the outside" was cute.

    "Good evening. I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time, and this is my wife." :lol: One of the funniest lines I can remember from new Who and perfectly delivered. Strax's assortment of one-liners was overdone, though.

    I'm over the "Doctor Who" bit turning up time and again and again and again. We get it - it's a theme for this series. Get on with it.

    There are a few other things I didn't much care for but I don't see much need to bring them up. Smith continues to make the show worth watching for me, so I'll deal with the rest of it as it happens.
  10. Lonemagpie

    Lonemagpie Writer Admiral

    Jan 31, 2007
    Wanna bet?

    One of the upcoming episodes *is* titled "Journey To The Centre Of The TARDIS"....
  11. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    Great Britain
    Just have to wait until the final ratings come in, but it could easily top 10m, which wouldn't be bad for a 17:15 showing.
  12. Australis

    Australis Writer Admiral

    Mar 12, 2005
    "Sir, please do not noogie me during combat prep!" Now THAT is a funny line!

    Love the new titles, so-so about the new theme.

    LOVE the new control room, like the complete change.

    Loved the one liners and the call back to other eps. I think Moffatt talking time off from Sherlock shows in a clever script.

    As for Clara Oswin, hmm, looks interesting. But the Doctor is letting her kiss him! And him a married man!

    The "Doctor Who?" thing, yeah, a bit meh.
  13. Avon

    Avon Commodore Commodore

    May 7, 2010
    if vastra was a man, i'm pretty sure people would complain that he treats his wife as a servant that seems to obey every command.

    anyone else feel they're relationships a bit dodgy?
  14. lennier1

    lennier1 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 3, 2004
    I still miss the coral-themed control room (it really drove home the fact that the TARDIS is a living, breathing thing), but the new one is a great homage to the classic control rooms.
    What's a bit weird is how those glowing discs on the upper level and the connecting lines look like smiling faces. Seems kinda creepy (click the image for a larger version).
  15. Allyn Gibson

    Allyn Gibson Vice Admiral Admiral

    Oct 16, 2000
    South Pennsyltucky
    What happened to the Ice Governess? Either I'm dense or BBC America cut the hell out of the third act, but it seemed like something was missing there.
  16. Saul

    Saul Vice Admiral Admiral

    Dec 27, 2002
    By the way what was that London underground map about and where did they get it from? Was it the Doctors? It's a paradox?
  17. Fruitcake

    Fruitcake Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Jan 20, 2007
    inside teacake
    Completely agree. That had me on the edge of my seat.

    I absolutely loved this, best bit of Who this series.
  18. MacLeod

    MacLeod Admiral Admiral

    Mar 8, 2001
    Great Britain
    Might be down to the actors age as well, but if you look at the years

    1866-1892 = 26 years, the original era ran for 26 years.
  19. DWF

    DWF Admiral Admiral

    May 19, 2001
    Columbus, Ohio
    Jenna Louise-Coleman was incredible but most of the story seemed to be filler. Although I loved the set up fo the Great Intelligence in the London underground.
  20. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

    Jan 15, 2002
    Fantastic! I really enjoyed that! Extra bonus, great tie-in to the Great Intelligence! Clara was great. The supporting characters were great. I pretty much enjoyed it all!

    Except for the new TARDIS control room! I know it was meant to be cold to represent the Doctor's mood, but hoping they change it soon. I looked cheap and dark to me.

    Mr Awe