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The Savage Curtain - Like it, love it or hate it?

I'd like to see at least an episode dealing with Zora and her atrocities.


Well there's that episode of B5 where this alien woman created an immortality drug by experimenting (killing) an entire planet's inhabitants (genocide).
Very similar.
 
Well there's that episode of B5 where this alien woman created an immortality drug by experimenting (killing) an entire planet's inhabitants (genocide).
Very similar.

I haven't seen B5 since it was originally on. I think it's high time for a rewatch.
 
I love "The Savage Curtain" ... it's got it all. From the time the bridge crew drops its collective jaw at the sight of Abraham Lincoln on the viewscreen, materialising in the vacuum of space, the show's nothing but over-the-top. It's got it all ... a cool-looking monster suit and nifty idea around it, a Klingon who does impersonations and lets a Human command, Surak & The Robe of Many Colours ... and, of course Abe working his magic. More than any of this, the mysterious Colonel Greene was a very cool concept, I've always thought. One which I truly hope gets made into a STAR TREK miniseries in the near future. It would have it all ... nuclear war and everything leading up to it, then the horrible repercussions and from the ash and smoke emerges this sinister figure, in his attempt to take over the world!
 
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I thought Lee Bergere was great as an idealized Lincoln. I always associated Lincoln with his portrayal and I guess I still do. In retrospect I also see a bit of Amy Adams as Amelia Earhart Night at the Museum 2 in this episode as far as the virtual characters being semi-aware of their own artificiality and yet still behaving as if they were actually plucked from history. I found that fascinating to ponder. Are they robots, illusions, or other Excalabians in disguise? I'm glad we never found out as it leaves you guessing.

I also think more than almost any other Trek episode this is the sort of plot that appeals to kids. I remember it being a favorite of mine when I was a kid. I guess it's because the walking simulacrums or whatever they are kind of feel like a bunch of historic action figures. It's basically "playtime" with famous good guys vs. famous bad guys with Yarnek just watching the show. Similar to Arena, but more entertaining by having two groups instead of just Kirk vs. the Gorn. As an adult, it has a certain campy naivete to it that I find utterly charming.

It asks us to examine the importance of our role-models, and by extension, what they believed in, which I think is a positive thing to do.

Who was a better Lincoln? This Lincoln, or the Lincoln from the Twilight Zone?
 
No other episode goes back and forth so much for me. I can see it as one of Trek's most embarrassing moments, or as a very interesting one with good SF ideas, depending on the day. It doesn't help that it's a transparent reworking of Arena, but most s3 stories are recyclings of an earlier idea. At least there was always a new twist on them.
 
Not TOS and possibly not the same timeline dare I say, or even the same universal quadrant?
JB
 
Well, the Kahless clone was taken from cells of the original Kahless from thousands of years ago but that's TNG and not TOS! :D
JB
 
This episode is so horrible, I'm not sure I can stand to even read the thread.

Its only redeeming value is the material John M Ford was able to mine from it for background detail for the masterpiece novel The Final Reflection.
 
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I have to admit I like Yarnek. He reminds me of a giant, overcooked misshapen brownie with marshmallows poking out. I get hungry every time I see him! :lol:
 
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