The Saga's End

[The Mirrorball Man]

Of course it's an alternative, but I always looked at the books as a filler for times when no Trek was being produced. I don't see them as a replacement.

I was not necessarily speaking about you, of course. I still think it's reasonable that a fan who is mostly interested in the Star Trek universe would be able to get his fix with novels. It seems to work with Star Wars fans.

 

[martin]

Do me a favour, stop telling people that are unhappy to go and read the books, ok? Reading a non-canon novel on a black and white page simply isn't a subsitute for a fully realised adventure on screen, no matter how good it is.

You're right of course, but he's still got a point. For people who are mainly interested in the Star Trek universe (as opposed to those who are mostly interested in Trek's character, technology, storytelling, visual design or whatever), reading the books is a viable alternative.

Of course it's an alternative, but I always looked at the books as a filler for times when no Trek was being produced. I don't see them as a replacement.

The thing is, classic trek had finished. There was never going to be any more movies, or TV shows, so this new film, is the only way Trek would continue in an official way on movie or tv screens. If you don't want the new vision of trek, and want more of the classic trek, books and fan productions are all you will or were ever going to get.

Move onto new trek, or put up with filler trek...

 

[El Chupacabra]

It seems to work with Star Wars fans.

Thats because they only had 12 hours of material. We had 736!! Star Wars fans are a bit like 20somethings who haven't been getting any sex.....they have to masterbate a helluva lot more.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Okay, saga's dead. Throw some dirt over it and move on.

 

[Jeri]

I think one of the reasons why people like Trek and why it has staying power is that it's the only major drama that portrays us, Earthlings, in the relatively near future in our quest for the next step, the next frontier.

Not the past, not some other galaxy, not largely unrelated to us in space and time. We need the vision, because we are going to do it.

 

[T'Paul]

I agree that a reset was a good idea, but I think that they should have done an actual reset instead of this alternate timeline nonsense.

Whatever. Same concept, just a difference in execution.

He's arguing against ignoring the huge Trek history, which would've happened either way.

No, I'm arguing against trying to pretend you're respecting the Trek history when you really have no idea how deep it really is, which is what the writers of this film are guilty of. Reexamining the archtypes is one thing, but they are trying to connect this to the existing saga, and getting it wrong.

Imagine for example if Ron Moore actually tried to connect his Galactica storyline to the original series.

Granted, the end real-world result is the same. Hit the reset button. From a creative standpoint, I just lament the abandonment of certain story opportunities.

Great example. I actually think Ron Moore should have been the writer for this movie. It would have been glorious.