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The Reboot's answer to "Voyage Home"?

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Supposing that the new movies made their own "Voyage Home" - I don't mean the whale story, but the general idea of going back in time for some reason and interacting with present day folks (2018/19/20).

(Though I think it would be better to cut (even the tenuous Beyond's Yorktown) ties with Earth for the film and explore a region where nobody can come to their rescue, nor are there any other Humans around but those of the Enterprise-A.)

What kinds of cultural phenomena would they fail to understand? (Selfies, media, art and music - Kirk likes 1980s music after all)

What technology would they have trouble with? (a la Prime Scotty's "Hello computer")

What would people from the 2010s think of them? (spies, freaks, insane, etc)
The Voyage Home sucked the worst out of all of The Original Series movies. The reboots are already a breakthrough, they don't have to resort to returning to "our" time to appeal to the masses. The whole thing with "Save the Whales" was pretty corny to start with and not at all satisfying. Time Travel already features too heavily in the reboots, as it is. I'd hope that the next movie continues to move away from that ...
 
I'm pretty sure they've already confirmed it'll be time travel to save Daddy Kirk. Unless Chris Hemsworth has really let himself go since Infinity War, they won;t be saving any whales.
 
If they encountered Khan there, that's how he remembers Chekov!
ok synopsis of this Alt TVH:
On route back to earth to face the Federations wrath Admiral Kirk and Co intercept a top security message from Starfleet that 2 surviving augments from Khans crew (that were left on CA5 to guard Reliants crew) have escaped and located the Guardian of Forever (*Ellison lawsuit alert!* prompting slingshot around sun rewrite*) and plan to use timetravel to help win the Eugenics War. as the nearest ship in the vicinity the crew have no choice but to go after them and warp to the Guardian planet slingshot around the sun... to travel back to where 23rd century man had never gone before.. a mad, crazy, outrageous time. 1990s earth.. where they must once again do battle with the most dangerous adversary the Enterprise ever faced... Khan! (Steven Seagal)
 
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The Voyage Home sucked the worst out of all of The Original Series movies. The reboots are already a breakthrough, they don't have to resort to returning to "our" time to appeal to the masses. The whole thing with "Save the Whales" was pretty corny to start with and not at all satisfying. Time Travel already features too heavily in the reboots, as it is. I'd hope that the next movie continues to move away from that ...

Got disagree there. The whale movie is my second-favorite TREK film.. It's a feel-good movie that always leaves a smile on my face.

And what's wrong with appealing to "the masses"? Star Trek is not supposed to be just for the privileged few.

That being said, I don't think the reboot movies should be wedded to the idea. I think time-travel has a pretty good track record where Trek is concerned, but there's no rule that says the fourth movies has to go to that well.
 
The Voyage Home sucked the worst out of all of The Original Series movies. The reboots are already a breakthrough, they don't have to resort to returning to "our" time to appeal to the masses. The whole thing with "Save the Whales" was pretty corny to start with and not at all satisfying. Time Travel already features too heavily in the reboots, as it is. I'd hope that the next movie continues to move away from that ...
LDS is a helluva drug.
 
TVH is one of my favorite Trek movies. I don't think it can ever be remade, as its just that moment in time with those actors and actresses.
 
If the story is really about Kirk meeting his Dad, that implies some kind of Time Travel, which would tie it into TVH. Like ST 2009 had a giant threat heading to Earth, and Spock as a focus. Into Darkness had Khan and two Starfleet ships fighting. Beyond had the crew stranded on a planet and the ship destroyed.
 
Got disagree there. The whale movie is my second-favorite TREK film.. It's a feel-good movie that always leaves a smile on my face.

And what's wrong with appealing to "the masses"? Star Trek is not supposed to be just for the privileged few.

That being said, I don't think the reboot movies should be wedded to the idea. I think time-travel has a pretty good track record where Trek is concerned, but there's no rule that says the fourth movies has to go to that well.
Your love for "The Whales" movie is well-documented, sir. As far as appealing to the masses, that's what's so great about these new STAR TREK movies coming out, now. But they do it in a much cooler way, I feel, than Nimoy was capable of with TVH.
 
They'd most likely go back to the 2020s (it'll be the '20s by the time this would come out).

I don't know though. I don't think they'd do a straight-up fish-out-of-water comedy now. There'd have to be an action element. It could work but anyone hoping for another TVH would have to keep those hopes in serious check.

I don't think they should reference who the President is, whether it's Trump or someone else. It's not like they went out of their way to reference Reagan in TVH once they were in the 1980s. Back to the Future did it, but joke felt more organic. 1955 Doc asked Marty "Who's President of the United States in 1985?" Marty said "Ronald Reagan" and, political affiliations aside, the joke worked because Reagan was better known as an actor. "Ronald Reagan?! The actor?! Ha! Then who's Vice President? Jerry Lewis?!"
 
So what would you have them go back in time and do? Fight in the Eugenics Wars to stop an impending invasion in the 23rd century?
I honestly don't have any alternative STAR TREK movie stories, so I don't know what else I'd have them do. However, I respect -- very deeply -- the fact that Leonard Nimoy was careful to include all of the cast in the story. The 2nd bananas aren't just sitting around waiting on Kirk/Spock/Bones to move the story. I like that Shatner, in particular, isn't called upon to be a studd, or to kick so much ass, or anything risible, physically. In particular, I like that the Bird of Prey pretty much just accommodates the main cast, there's not all these extras around trying to look like they're doing something useful. It's a very intimate set and I kind of like that ... there are elements to the movie I think are pretty decent. But the Eugenics Wars would've never crossed my mind as a story idea for TOS' cast -- especially at this stage in the game. They'd gotten on a bit. But time travel is certainly no stranger to the new films, so you never know ...
 
I've been thinking more about ideas for a fourth film lately.

Some people compare the probe from TVH to V'Ger from TMP.

That got me to thinking about the fact that they really didn't do anything with V'Ger in the reboot movie series.

What if Voyager 6 went through a wormhole into the Kelvin universe....only this time when Kelvin-Kirk and crew encounter it, not only are there 3 Klingon ships stored in stasis....there is also the prime-Enterprise and crew! The actual ships and their crews could be stored, in separate locations, rather than just 'copies' like we saw in TMP.

Prime universe, but yet a different version of.

The prime crew could appear stored something like this, from the time travel sequence in TVH:

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That would not require the physical presence of the original cast members and there are plenty of recordings of their voices to work into the story and make use of. Maybe at the end of the film Kirk could be 'extracted' and Shatner could be age-regressed and have that type of part that he has talked a bit about.

The story could even be changed around so that it was an old Klingon space probe that was modified and sent back to find its creators. Qo'nos could be facing the threat, rather than Earth.

In that scenario, I would like to see the Klingons take over the Kelvin-Enterprise and Kelvin-Kirk has to fight them by making use of a prime-K'tinga battle cruiser that he and the crew manage to unlock from stasis.... maybe something about the approach to the home planet of the creators unlocking the Klingon ships first, because they are not 'alien' like the prime-Enterprise....then using the battle cruiser in an attempt to disable his own ship and retake it without destroying it in the process.

Something like that could be fun if done right. Would they do it? Hell no. :sigh:
 
ooh..big Voyage Home fan but wish theyd done that instead!

It would have been a nice way to continue the narrative theme from the 2nd movie, and they would also have to be very careful to make sure Khan survived and escaped at the end, either with them helping behind the scenes, or a mindwipe.... and THAT would have been a tough emotional moment / decision for Kirk and crew to make.... especially knowing that it ultimately costs Kirk his son. McCoy could tell Spock its an easy choice for HIM to make, since HE already knows he comes back from the dead.
 
The time-travel which set up the story in "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" was accidental, was it not?

Not if it was because they cold started the engines at the end of Naked Time... :D

If they went back to the 1980's would they find the "prime" crew already there?

I would assume so, since that was already a physical, solid interaction with the timeline centuries before the split. My question would be, where does the TOS crew go when they warp out in the BOP, and what would happen if you interfered with that moment?
 
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