"The Raven" episode thought

[voyagerfan]

I just watched the episode again last night, I was wondering something.

If The Raven was found in the delta quadrant and they had seven on board, why didn't they follow the route taken by Seven's parents.

How did they get into the quadrant? did they hide in the Borg conduits, if so they'd have been detected and scanned? did the writer intentionally leave this out or what?

 

[Deckerd]

The story was that her parents left the alpha quadrant and headed for the delta quadrant never to be seen again. So, they got there the conventional way is the answer.

 

[voyagerfan]

The story was that her parents left the alpha quadrant and headed for the delta quadrant never to be seen again. So, they got there the conventional way is the answer.

You mean the way the crew are taking back?

 

[exodus]

I just watched the episode again last night, I was wondering something.

If The Raven was found in the delta quadrant and they had seven on board, why didn't they follow the route taken by Seven's parents.

How did they get into the quadrant? did they hide in the Borg conduits, if so they'd have been detected and scanned? did the writer intentionally leave this out or what?

Watch "Dark Frontier", it explains everything.

 

[Deckerd]

The story was that her parents left the alpha quadrant and headed for the delta quadrant never to be seen again. So, they got there the conventional way is the answer.

You mean the way the crew are taking back?

Yes, basically.

 

[kimc]

I just watched the episode again last night, I was wondering something.

If The Raven was found in the delta quadrant and they had seven on board, why didn't they follow the route taken by Seven's parents.

How did they get into the quadrant? did they hide in the Borg conduits, if so they'd have been detected and scanned? did the writer intentionally leave this out or what?

Great thread idea - I don't think we've ever had a "Raven" thread before.

The whole concept of how their ship got to the Delta Quadrant is part of the mystery of the episode. In a later episode called "Dark Fronteir" though they explain the Hansen's were able to travel in the wake of the borg cubes they were studying.

 

[Lonemagpie]

They were drawn in the wake of a Borg cube, through transwarp conduits to Borg Space. Not a good idea for Voyager...

 

[voyagerfan]

oddly they got back in the wake of a Borg ship in Endgame?

 

[voyagerfan]

I just watched the episode again last night, I was wondering something.

If The Raven was found in the delta quadrant and they had seven on board, why didn't they follow the route taken by Seven's parents.

How did they get into the quadrant? did they hide in the Borg conduits, if so they'd have been detected and scanned? did the writer intentionally leave this out or what?

Great thread idea - I don't think we've ever had a "Raven" thread before.

The whole concept of how their ship got to the Delta Quadrant is part of the mystery of the episode. In a later episode called "Dark Fronteir" though they explain the Hansen's were able to travel in the wake of the borg cubes they were studying.

Plus it's curious as you start to think, how can they get back (Voyager), we all know that the Hansens didn't submit a flightplan, if they did, would there have been a Voyager series as they would just have followed the flight plan in reverse?

 

[The Borg Queen]

They followed a cube through a transwarp conduit. I'm pretty sure the dad even states this for the audience, when making his log entry.

 

[exodus]

I just watched the episode again last night, I was wondering something.

If The Raven was found in the delta quadrant and they had seven on board, why didn't they follow the route taken by Seven's parents.

How did they get into the quadrant? did they hide in the Borg conduits, if so they'd have been detected and scanned? did the writer intentionally leave this out or what?

Great thread idea - I don't think we've ever had a "Raven" thread before.

The whole concept of how their ship got to the Delta Quadrant is part of the mystery of the episode. In a later episode called "Dark Fronteir" though they explain the Hansen's were able to travel in the wake of the borg cubes they were studying.

Plus it's curious as you start to think, how can they get back (Voyager), we all know that the Hansens didn't submit a flightplan, if they did, would there have been a Voyager series as they would just have followed the flight plan in reverse?

I'm not sure how it works but can you submit a flight plan to uncharted space?

 

[nx1701g]

^ I think Starfleet just wanted a flightplan that they wouldn't fly into hostile space (i.e. Romulan Territory).

 

[voyagerfan]

Yeah and they ended up in the delta quadrant

 

[Candlelight]

oddly they got back in the wake of a Borg ship in Endgame?

Actually the Borg ship was chasing them...

 

[Akiraprise]

It looks like it actually caught them, or Voyager allowed themselves to be caught. At the end of the episode Voyager blasts it's way out of the sphere. In the PC game Elite Force 2 you actually have to help Voyager escape the sphere.

 

[jgdst]

^ About that, I know it's slightly off topic, but can somebody explain that shot to me?

Spoiler: the finale (new fans avert your eyes!)

The bit where you see the torpedo getting bigger... is that inside or outside the Sphere? Where's the camera supposed to be - whose POV is it? Then stuff explodes and Voyager flies out heroically.

I don't understand any of that scene, only that everything works out in the end. EF2 didn't help at all in clearing it up It just repeated it verbatim

 

[voyagerfan]

How big was the conduit itself?

 

[Candlelight]

^ About that, I know it's slightly off topic, but can somebody explain that shot to me?

Spoiler: the finale (new fans avert your eyes!)

The bit where you see the torpedo getting bigger... is that inside or outside the Sphere? Where's the camera supposed to be - whose POV is it? Then stuff explodes and Voyager flies out heroically.

I don't understand any of that scene, only that everything works out in the end. EF2 didn't help at all in clearing it up It just repeated it verbatim

It's from the point of view of the inner hull of the sphere - the torpedo comes from within the sphere, towards the surface, then it cuts to the outside where it blows hull plating off.

 

[Timo]

...The writers wanted to make it a big surprise that the Voyager is actually riding inside the Borg sphere, so they cut off the lead-in scene before Janeway told her crew to do this, and then they had no dialogue to indicate that the ship was inside the Borg vessel, and then they had no dialogue to indicate that the ship broke out of the Borg vessel...

End result: something of a dramatic mess. They should have had at least one explicit visual that showed the ship of our heroes in the belly of the ship of our villains. Oh, well.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[voyagerfan]

Yeah all you seen was the ship come out of the wormhole after the sphere was destroyed. Also seeing Admiral Paris and Reg Barclay on the view screen seemed a little tense as well