The quintessential TOS episode was.....'The Apple'

[Stella's_Funboy]

Mind you, I did not say 'best'

This one had it all:

1. Deadshirts (3)
2. Major plot holes. ( A few baskets of veggies powered a planet sized machine?)
3. The Tricorder giving impossible readings. ( Measuring the 'agility' of a moving person?)
4. Faux techno-babble. (Kirk: "move out, formation L". It's worth noting that they just kind of walked off. No 'formation L')
5. Odd sound effects. (See: arrow shooting plants)
6. Bad alien design. ( Gold lame skin with geometric designs on face)
7. Bad dialog ( Kirk says "did someone say paradise must have looked like this.....when nobody did.)
8. Cheesy set design. (See: arrow shooting plants)

It all made for one of my favorite episodes.

 

[SonicRanger]

7. Bad dialog ( Kirk says "did someone say paradise must have looked like this.....when nobody did.)

CHEKOV: It makes me homesick. Just like Russia.
MCCOY: More like the Garden of Eden, Ensign.

Oh, and those baskets for feeding Vaal were full of the exploding rocks, not fruit.

 

[Stella's_Funboy]

7. Bad dialog ( Kirk says "did someone say paradise must have looked like this.....when nobody did.)

CHEKOV: It makes me homesick. Just like Russia.
MCCOY: More like the Garden of Eden, Ensign.

Oh, and those baskets for feeding Vaal were full of the exploding rocks, not fruit.

....right...'Garden of Eden'....Not 'Paradise'. Yes, I count that as bad dialog.

You got me on the second one. I never made that connection. Oh, and try and not be petty.

 

[7thsealord]

No pettiness? On the Internet?!?!? What planet are you from?

For 5, I could ask what sort of sound effects should arrow-shooting plants have?

For 6, maybe the geometric face design is some kind of body-painting, or Baal's idea of a bar code.

For 8, note their strict budget limits. They actually blew their entire SEASON'S budget for plants and greenery on that one episode.

 

[SonicRanger]

....right...'Garden of Eden'....Not 'Paradise'. Yes, I count that as bad dialog.

Really? You're going to parse it that thin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden#Eden_as_paradise

You got me on the second one. I never made that connection. Oh, and try and not be petty.

It's one of the things you really can't tell clearly until the episode was in HD.

How is it being petty to disagree with your points? If you expect only agreement here, prepare for disappointment.

 

[Stella's_Funboy]

No pettiness? On the Internet?!?!? What planet are you from?

For 5, I could ask what sort of sound effects should arrow-shooting plants have?

For 6, maybe the geometric face design is some kind of body-painting, or Baal's idea of a bar code.

For 8, note their strict budget limits. They actually blew their entire SEASON'S budget for plants and greenery on that one episode.

1. Lol
2. More of a 'woosh' I'm thinking.
3. Well done.
4. Is that a fact?

 

[Stella's_Funboy]

This episode has four deadshirts, the last of them being the clubbed-from behind Marple in Act Four. He was so close to making it.
I guess Formation L meant '' walk normally now.'' But I'll take TOS technobabble over the inane follow-up time-fillers anyday.
I got so sick of hearing Crusher talk about ''anomalies.''
Nice opportunity for Chekov to yell at Spock, though ''What do you want, violins?'' seems a bit off. Here's my version:
''MISTER FUNBOY........I find your love for Stella totally BIZARRE!!!!''

Yeah, I remembered that last guy after posting. Too lazy to edit.
You have an issue with my sweetie?

 

[Stella's_Funboy]

....right...'Garden of Eden'....Not 'Paradise'. Yes, I count that as bad dialog.

Really? You're going to parse it that thin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden#Eden_as_paradise

You got me on the second one. I never made that connection. Oh, and try and not be petty.

It's one of the things you really can't tell clearly until the episode was in HD.

How is it being petty to disagree with your points? If you expect only agreement here, prepare for disappointment.

1. Lets not take this to seriously.
2. See above.

Lets kiss and make up, ok?

 

[Bixby]

Nice opportunity for Chekov to yell at Spock, though ''What do you want, violins?'' seems a bit off.

Foxhot, I think Chekov was actually saying ''violence'' here, not 'violins'...

 

[Stella's_Funboy]

It seems to be a three-syllable word at any rate.

I think it was 'violins' also.

 

[T'Girl]

... maybe the geometric face design is some kind of body-painting ...

My take is that they are tattoos, but paint is also a possibility.

You got me on the second one. I never made that connection.

It's one of the things you really can't tell clearly until the episode was in HD.

I could tell prior to HD, you can see as the natives are doing the dumping of the baskets into Vaal's throat. Plus it just makes sense.

 

[7thsealord]

No pettiness? On the Internet?!?!? What planet are you from?

For 5, I could ask what sort of sound effects should arrow-shooting plants have?

For 6, maybe the geometric face design is some kind of body-painting, or Baal's idea of a bar code.

For 8, note their strict budget limits. They actually blew their entire SEASON'S budget for plants and greenery on that one episode.

1. Lol
2. More of a 'woosh' I'm thinking.
3. Well done.
4. Is that a fact?

1.
2. OK
3. Thank you.
4. Ayup.

 

[Kelso]

Nice opportunity for Chekov to yell at Spock, though ''What do you want, violins?'' seems a bit off.

Foxhot, I think Chekov was actually saying ''violence'' here, not 'violins'...

Violins is correct. It was discussed in a recent thread.

ETA: And my "recent"... I mean in 2008! lol. I've been here too long. I would have sworn that was within the past few months! Ah, well.

 

[Theodore Jay Miller]

This episode has four deadshirts, the last of them being the clubbed-from behind Marple in Act Four. He was so close to making it.

And they die in alphabetical order: Hendorf, Kaplan, Mallory, Marple.

 

[plynch]

This episode has four deadshirts, the last of them being the clubbed-from behind Marple in Act Four. He was so close to making it.

And they die in alphabetical order: Hendorf, Kaplan, Mallory, Marple.

That's impressive.

Yes, this ep is pretty Star Trekky, I'll give it that. Colorful. Weird. Cheesy. Ethical debate made moot by the Enterprise-in-danger trope. My kids LOVE it when Spock just chucks the exploding rock.

 

[22 Stars]

I know, for a pretty routine un-sung episode, you get a lot. Also to pick up a theme from another thread, you get the classic Kirk meets 'God', Kirk kills 'God' motif! Long live Trek and Roddenberry's Humanist nature.

 

[plynch]

I know, for a pretty routine un-sung episode, you get a lot. Also to pick up a theme from another thread, you get the classic Kirk meets 'God', Kirk kills 'God' motif! Long live Trek and Roddenberry's Humanist nature.

If you want to see it, a satire of religion, though unintended in this script, I think.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

2. Major plot holes. ( A few baskets of veggies powered a planet sized machine?)

I just watched this episode last night for the first time in a few years. And I noticed something I'd never noticed in previous years of viewing this episode.

For years, I thought they were carrying baskets of fruits, but they were actually feeding Vaal the explosive rocks that Spock discovered and Ensign Mallory stepped on.

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Screencaps taken from Trekcore.

In the top screencap, the woman is picking up a rock from a pile of rocks. In the bottom screencap, you can see the man at the far right carrying a rock that has the same red "vain" as the rock Spock picks up earlier in the episode.

As for "The Apple," I was taking about this episode with a friend Saturday. It has all the classic marks of TOS — Kirk destroys a computer, Kirk kicks out a false god, and kitschy planet set.

It also has Kirk destroying paradise because the natives aren't
having sex ... I mean being productive and procreating. ("You know look like you, but smaller ... well, you'll find out.") Only Kirk would banish a false god because sex is far more important than eternal happiness.

 

[plynch]

Only Kirk would banish a false god because sex is far more important than eternal happiness.

Oh, I'll bet he has a lot of fellow-travellers who would be right there with him on that one. We don't know what he'd do, were the big E not threatened, of course. Although he did it before, but that was to an earth colony; and to Eminiar, but that was to stop - maybe! - a war; and to the Archons-planet, though I think the Ent was also in danger. Maybe not that time, maybe he just did it for the sake of. Can't remember.