The Perfect Mate (would you choose this?)

Discussion in 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' started by GentlemanBob, Jul 20, 2014.

  1. Tora Ziyal

    Tora Ziyal Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 27, 2010
    Yes, that's a much better question.
  2. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

    May 10, 2005
    The visitor's bullpen
    If that is indeed what Endgame meant, he could certainly have phrased it better. "Would that be something worse than rape?" doesn't exactly leave a lot of room for ambiguity.
  3. Endgame

    Endgame Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 12, 2010
    Burnaby, BC Canada
    It is one thing to be seduced and manipulated perhaps even with consent whatever that might mean in that context. Then it is another thing to have a relationship where one is more than persuaded but rather conditioned or manipulated to fulfill another person's wishes (to neglect of one's own more or less) and then it is a third thing to be conditioned to enjoy this. It is like rape with Stockholm syndrome - worse than rape.
  4. LMFAOschwarz

    LMFAOschwarz Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Oct 1, 2013
    Well, if we're going to go to other worlds, and not judge their cultures based on our standards of normalcy, then this scenario is just one of many that may be found.

    That's just something to be prepared for...

    Which brings around yet again the vaguaries (sp.) of 'non-interference'... :brickwall:
  5. Tora Ziyal

    Tora Ziyal Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 27, 2010
    All rapes come with complications. If not Stockholm syndrome, then physical injuries, or betrayal by someone the victim had trusted, or home invasion by a stranger, or sexually-transmitted illness, or some combination of the above. Or other possibilities I haven't listed. Trying to rank one variation as automatically worse than another is ridiculous.
  6. Keith1701

    Keith1701 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Dec 26, 2002
    Warner Robins Georgia
    True, but she was near Perfect for me.
  7. OkLewis

    OkLewis Ensign Newbie

    Aug 21, 2014
    They would know its a hologram, some issue is bound to pop up.
  8. Salinga

    Salinga Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    May 16, 2005
    BTW this "perfect mate" concept is something that drives child abusers: They use the undeveloped (or under developed) sexuality of a child to imprint it to their sexual needs. A person who was sexually abused as a child has often troubles later in life to differenciate between their personal needs and the needs of the abuser during their childhood because they "learned" as a child to "morph" their personal sexual needs according to the needs of their abuser. One of the core reasons why child abuse is such a horrible crime: It "deforms" the sexuality of a human beeing.

    To come back to the core of this topic: Because of this I never would want to have a relationship with a woman/species who adopts my personal needs and desires, because I would consider it to be abusive of a child-like beeing. It would be my responsebility to have her develop her own needs and interests, allow her to become her own strong character. Anything else is not ethical.
  9. Armored Saint

    Armored Saint Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Oct 26, 2012
    Quebec City
    It's an usual moral problem with genetic engineering/design. It's like having manifactured super-soldiers who are created to sacrifice themselves without being able to make that choice. In Blade Runner, you have the male replicants who're made to perform dangerous jobs and also the girl who's designed to be a prostitute for soldiers. They're created to be slaves doing dirty or dangerous works.
  10. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Commodore Commodore

    May 24, 2006
    Escaped from Delta Vega
    Women either capable of being everything you desire in mind & body--or is constructed to be a perfect mate seems like a doomed pursuit. Just ask TOS' Robert Crater and Flint about that.