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THE ORVILLE S2, E8: "IDENTITY, PART I"

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The Orville's first two-parter. Synopsis not available. Looks like a big show.

Despite the lack of indications here, I'm still suspecting that Isaac's real nature and home planet will figure into this one.

I believe this season is fourteen episodes, so we're into the back half now. Will there be more beyond? Only the suits at Fox know that right now. Enjoy while we can.
 
With all this talks about Disney and FOX merging or whatever, I got a little hope deep inside me, about The Orville and Star Wars crossover. (Wishful thinking, I know). Something small and humble. No big names like Solo or Skywalker family.

Something simple like this: drive malfunction, USS Orville jumps through the black hole to the Galaxy Far Away; a short encounter with some unknown Imperial Star Destroyer, quick battle, some moral lesson; end of story.
It might be a little gem.

And now I look at this promo...

GORDON: We are long way from home.

0.04 - Cloud City !!!

It's a Bespin planet! We are going to meet Lando!

Yes, I know, no chance at this point. But can we dream?
 
They recently received a little over $15 million in tax incentives for a potential third season from the state of California. That doesn't guarantee that it will be renewed, but it certainly helps their chances.

My main concern is the Fox network itself. Once the Disney deal is finalized, their broadcast network is going to be 100% local and national news and sports. What does that mean for the shows currently on the network for next year? The Simpsons, Family Guy and Bob's Burgers were already renewed. Do they get shifted to ABC or Hulu next year? Or are these renewals merely symbolic? Is Disney even coordinating with Fox on their renewals?
 
Once the Disney deal is finalized, their broadcast network is going to be 100% local and national news and sports.

I don't think so. They are still going to have evening programming to fill (8-10pm Weeknight and Saturday/7-10pm on Sunday). And The Simpsons were already renewed for two more seasons by FOX just a couple of days ago.
 
I don't think so. They are still going to have evening programming to fill (8-10pm Weeknight and Saturday/7-10pm on Sunday). And The Simpsons were already renewed for two more seasons by FOX just a couple of days ago.

Throughout the process Murdoch and his sons have been adamant that they wanted to get out of the scripted television business and that post-buyout the FOX broadcast network would only carry sports and news programming. Those renewals are either a) FOX coordinating with Disney to make sure that the casts and crews of whatever shows Disney wants to keep going are locked down to prevent any availability issues or b) FOX going through the motions as though the deal doesn't exist similar to how 20th Century Fox has been greenlighting movies that may never get made. Business as usual continues until the day business is no longer usual.
 
Throughout the process Murdoch and his sons have been adamant that they wanted to get out of the scripted television business and that post-buyout the FOX broadcast network would only carry sports and news programming. Those renewals are either a) FOX coordinating with Disney to make sure that the casts and crews of whatever shows Disney wants to keep going are locked down to prevent any availability issues or b) FOX going through the motions as though the deal doesn't exist similar to how 20th Century Fox has been greenlighting movies that may never get made. Business as usual continues until the day business is no longer usual.

They've ordered two new animated shows, and also renewed Family Guy and Bob's Burgers. It also doesn't sound like ABC is going to be getting any shows from FOX.

Animation has been a big priority for Fox, which has ordered two new animated series for next season and plans to expand in a major way its animated franchise with The Simpsons, Family Guy and Bob’s Burgers as cornerstones.

Meanwhile, 20th TV’s new corporate sibling broadcast network, ABC, is not in the primetime animation business and has no current plans to get into that space.

Additionally, it is female skewing, while Fox’s animated shows have stronger male appeal. Of course, there is always a possibility for the 20th TV animated series to jump to a Disney-owned platform as streaming originals one day but, as The Simpsons renewal indicates, that is not in the cards for the foreseeable future. (The Simpsons currently has a $750 million multi-platform off-network deal with FX)

https://deadline.com/2019/02/the-simpsons-renewed-seasons-31-32-fox-1202550894/

So while Murdoch may want to get out of scripted entertainment, it isn't happening any time soon. I do wonder if we might end up with an The Orville animated show at some point?
 
Throughout the process Murdoch and his sons have been adamant that they wanted to get out of the scripted television business and that post-buyout the FOX broadcast network would only carry sports and news programming. Those renewals are either a) FOX coordinating with Disney to make sure that the casts and crews of whatever shows Disney wants to keep going are locked down to prevent any availability issues or b) FOX going through the motions as though the deal doesn't exist similar to how 20th Century Fox has been greenlighting movies that may never get made. Business as usual continues until the day business is no longer usual.
I find it a little hard to believe they would renew all of these shows without some way to be certain that Disney will honor those renewals. It would be pretty shitty to make all of these casts and crews think that they'll have a job next season, only to pull the rug out from under them in a few months.

As for the next episode of The Orville, it definitely looks like this will be a much bigger episode than the last couple.
 
Throughout the process Murdoch and his sons have been adamant that they wanted to get out of the scripted television business and that post-buyout the FOX broadcast network would only carry sports and news programming. Those renewals are either a) FOX coordinating with Disney to make sure that the casts and crews of whatever shows Disney wants to keep going are locked down to prevent any availability issues or b) FOX going through the motions as though the deal doesn't exist similar to how 20th Century Fox has been greenlighting movies that may never get made. Business as usual continues until the day business is no longer usual.


Yeah, no.

PASADENA, Calif. – With plans to divorce its studio, which is headed to Disney, will the Fox broadcast network continue to be the home of The Simpsons, Empire and Family Guy?

Don’t believe widespread reports that Fox will turn into an all-news and sports network — speculation based on elliptical remarks from Fox owner Rupert Murdoch — Fox's top entertainment executives told the kickoff session of the Television Critics Association's winter press tour Thursday.

“There’s been a little bit of confusion over that,” says Dana Walden, chairman and CEO of Fox Television Group, which oversees both the studio and network. Murdoch said 80% of the programming on the “new Fox” will be live, but Walden says “the network will continue entertainment programming,” and open its doors to outside studios such as Sony, Lionsgate and MGM, also unaligned with networks, in exchange for an ownership stake in their shows.

Her partner, Gary Newman, also said none of Fox’s existing series will move to ABC, nor is ABC planning to reinvent 20th Century Fox’s programming development. “They’re not acquiring Fox to turn it into some kind of PG company, to Disney-fy it, as (Disney chief) Bob (Iger) said.”

Disney last month struck a $52 billion deal to buy assets from 21st Century Fox, including its TV and movie studios and FX and National Geographic networks — but not the Fox network, which would remain with a company being dubbed "new Fox" that also includes broadcast stations, Fox News Channel and Fox Sports.

The studio's stable of producers, including Ryan Murphy, expressed concern. "I got a call from Murdoch and I got a call from Iger, and I said point blank, 'The stuff I do is not Disney. Am I going to have to put Mickey Mouse in American Horror Story? And he said no, the reason Disney was buying Fox was because they believed in the assets and they believed in the creators. I’m sort of interested to see what that company is going to look like before I make any decisions about where I’m going to go."

But for now, it’s “business as usual,” the executives repeatedly said, with the Disney deal not expected to close for 12 to 18 months. “We have to operate at Fox as if this deal might not go through,” Newman says. “The company has to remain as strong as possible. We’re reading scripts right now, we’ll be ordering pilots at the end of this month, in May we’ll set a schedule and market our shows.”

For the 2019-20 season, the first that's anticipated to follow the split, "I don’t think that schedule will look dramatically different," Newman says. "Going forward they are going to run Fox like they would any network. Shows that merit renewals will get them." (Even series like The Simpsons with big price tags justified by the studio's ability to profit from them on other platforms.)
 
So how will that work then? Disney/Fox will produce the shows, then they will air on the Fox network, which will still be owned by the independent Fox?
I thought Fox was going to be completely owned by Disney, or are they just selling their movie and TV stuff to Disney? It's been a while since all of that was explained so my memory of it all is getting a little fuzzy.
 
The way Murdoch originally explained it (which led to the confusion) was that he was keeping the broadcast network and all sports and news channels while giving Disney everything on the scripted TV and film end including Fox Television and 20th Century Fox). He even straight up said Fox would only air news and sports, hence the confusion. He wanted "New Fox" to focus solely on news and sports. I'm wondering if the realities of the deal didn't quite match Murdoch's vision of it. I have no idea how this is going to work. Should be interesting.
 
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With all this talks about Disney and FOX merging or whatever, I got a little hope deep inside me, about The Orville and Star Wars crossover. (Wishful thinking, I know). Something small and humble. No big names like Solo or Skywalker family.

Something simple like this: drive malfunction, USS Orville jumps through the black hole to the Galaxy Far Away; a short encounter with some unknown Imperial Star Destroyer, quick battle, some moral lesson; end of story.
It might be a little gem.

And now I look at this promo...

GORDON: We are long way from home.

0.04 - Cloud City !!!

It's a Bespin planet! We are going to meet Lando!

Yes, I know, no chance at this point. But can we dream?
I'd say the more likely scenario is that we would see the characters playing Star Wars in the holodeck. Maybe something tied in with the new movies so they can net an actor for a cameo.
 
So it's not just me then, it is that confusing? Have they said anything about what will happen to the FX channels?

FX, Fox Television and 20th Century Fox are going to Disney (along with their 33.3% share of Hulu, giving Disney 66.6% and majority control).

Fox (the broadcast network), Fox Sports and Fox News are staying with the Murdochs. I'm not sure what's happening with Sky/Sky News since I'm pretty sure that was a point of contention with regulators.
 
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