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THE ORVILLE S1, E8: "INTO THE FOLD"

Rate the episode:

  • ***** Excellent

    Votes: 22 29.3%
  • ****

    Votes: 33 44.0%
  • ***

    Votes: 13 17.3%
  • **

    Votes: 5 6.7%
  • * Fear the banana

    Votes: 2 2.7%

  • Total voters
    75
Best episode of the season.
It’s amazing how this show just gets better and better.

When Isaac shot that mobile game with the laser gun... I laughed and laughed. A parent definitely wrote that scene.

“We will not speak of the game ever again.” Lol!
Not necessarily, but certainly the most likely candidate. I don't have any kids but I loathe how society has become so utterly dependent on mobile devices and spreading that dependency onto their kids.

Either way, the scene was hysterical.
 
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I thought this episode was one of the low points in this season.
- Isaac was entertaining, better than some episodes, but not great.

- Finn still seems rather bland, but at least now we know she has a family and chose to be a single parent, so she has some character traits now.

- Why did they hire Brian Thompson and give him nothing to do but menace? For a character who plans ahead enough to survive relatively well in an apocalypse and who seems to care at least somewhat about the well-being of an alien, the script does backflips to make it so that he and Finn never talk like normal people, never establish common ground, and never establish a 24th century/civilized connection.

- The rest of the crew got bupkis - no real humor (the one musical joke was not good), the navigational computer issue came to nothing, the 72 moons came to nothing (because of the EM pulse), the 1000 lightyear gap came to nothing (as we knew the Orville already went through the rift). It just seems like there were so many things the episode wanted to do, but just didn't get around to them or didn't know what to do with them.

- And i know it is mostly nitpicking, but I didn't like the scene with Isaac shooting all the attacking natives - i get that it was showing Isaac being a father figure to the older boy by working with him and giving him instructions on how to shoot, but the whole thing was ridiculous: first, there is no way Isaac couldn't have held off those attackers who had sticks and rocks with his phaser. He is an AI with a phaser - he should be able to shoot them as fast as he can see them, from range. And if the boy wanted to be a real help he could have brought Isaac another phaser to dual wield. Secondly, where did all those attackers come from? Suddenly there are literally dozens of attackers? In a place where there is almost no food left, there are dozens of deranged maniacs queuing up for an assault on a shuttle containing one adult and two small children? Where did they all come from and how did they all know to show up there at the same time and with the same objective, and how far were they planning their "feast" would go, split among dozens of people? And how come the attackers completely ignored the dead guy Finn shot first in the woods? Again the script wanted it to happen for the characters, but it made no sense.
 
One of my favorite episodes so far.
Having just spent a weekend watching my nephews I felt the interactions between the kids came off quite realistically . The general animosity between them was perfect and contrasted well with the immediate concern the older boy had for the younger when he fell into the water .

Claire's behavior was one of the highlights, so many opportunities for cliche that DIDNT come to pass.
To often when the Good Guy is captured they will squander their first chance to escape because Good Guys MUST try to reason with the Jailer . Only then can we show the audience that the Jailer is Irredeemably Evil ; only then can we accept the Good Guy reluctantly being forced to kill. And of course the script will provide the Good Guy with a second chance to escape , after all they earned it by trying to reason with the Jailer.

This episode avoided all that by presenting a realistic human being;
When you put yourself in her shoes , her actions are perfectly reasonable. Her son was sick; being a doctor she knows his best chance for survival is to get treatment as soon as possible and she knows she is the ONLY person nearby who can possibly treat him. Heck, she knows he could already be beyond treatment, she can't fix everything. She knows this alien will not let her leave voluntarily, his motivation is irrelevant , his actions are preventing her from reaching her son. She also knows that she might only have this one chance to escape, even if she thinks she can create another opportunity any time delay reduces her sons chance's.

The one nitpic would be that Issac should have been shooting two pistols at almost full auto speed with little to no effort ; we also got told from the ship side that 'a few dozen' humanoids were approaching. I think Isaac shoots more then a few dozen times before he even calls for help. All good though, gave us a good moment between mother and son, gave us 'we value life' VS 'We Dont Kill' again a more realistic message. gave us Isaac coaching the kid on shooting. All enjoyable moments.

Another great episode
 
I thought this episode was one of the low points in this season.
- Isaac was entertaining, better than some episodes, but not great.

- Finn still seems rather bland, but at least now we know she has a family and chose to be a single parent, so she has some character traits now.

- Why did they hire Brian Thompson and give him nothing to do but menace? For a character who plans ahead enough to survive relatively well in an apocalypse and who seems to care at least somewhat about the well-being of an alien, the script does backflips to make it so that he and Finn never talk like normal people, never establish common ground, and never establish a 24th century/civilized connection.

- The rest of the crew got bupkis - no real humor (the one musical joke was not good), the navigational computer issue came to nothing, the 72 moons came to nothing (because of the EM pulse), the 1000 lightyear gap came to nothing (as we knew the Orville already went through the rift). It just seems like there were so many things the episode wanted to do, but just didn't get around to them or didn't know what to do with them.

- And i know it is mostly nitpicking, but I didn't like the scene with Isaac shooting all the attacking natives - i get that it was showing Isaac being a father figure to the older boy by working with him and giving him instructions on how to shoot, but the whole thing was ridiculous: first, there is no way Isaac couldn't have held off those attackers who had sticks and rocks with his phaser. He is an AI with a phaser - he should be able to shoot them as fast as he can see them, from range. And if the boy wanted to be a real help he could have brought Isaac another phaser to dual wield. Secondly, where did all those attackers come from? Suddenly there are literally dozens of attackers? In a place where there is almost no food left, there are dozens of deranged maniacs queuing up for an assault on a shuttle containing one adult and two small children? Where did they all come from and how did they all know to show up there at the same time and with the same objective, and how far were they planning their "feast" would go, split among dozens of people? And how come the attackers completely ignored the dead guy Finn shot first in the woods? Again the script wanted it to happen for the characters, but it made no sense.

I'm so glad you don't work on the show. :p

I thought the episode was great. Had a great time watching it with my better half and son.
 
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