THE ORVILLE S1, E11 "NEW DIMENSIONS"

[Cyrus]

Just watched this. It was OK. I think this may have been the first Orville Scifi concept (2 dimensional universe) that was not done already by Trek (or maybe it was, it's hard to remember everything after 700+ episodes).

Ed's assessment of himself was correct. He was being a whiny little bitch. He should have been grateful for what his ex-wife did for him.

"I am not racist. I have gelatinous friends"

 

[Trekker4747]

TNG dealt with 2D creatures in "The Loss." It was sort of a tangential element to the story, however. Troi lost her empathic abilities and flips out over it over the course of the episode; we learn because the ship is trapped in a swarm of 2D-beings headed towards a cosmic string (or something) where they "live" the number of them is overloading Troi's empathic abilities. The crew has to work to get out of the swarm before they're pulled into the cosmic string and destroyed. (The 2D beings were heading "home.")

 

[shivkala]

Well, some people like one show better while some like the other show better. Some like both shows the same but in different ways and, shoot, some like neither--go figure!

There's no right answer to this. Just a matter of personal preference.

People here seem to have a hard time understanding that. The Orville is not better than Discovery and vice-versa, because it is all a matter of preference. I get that many don't like Discovery and that's fine, but my point, and one I have to keep making, is that not liking it doesn't mean you have to constantly compare it, unfavorably, to The Orville. Doing so only makes it look more like The Orville can't stand on its own.

Mercer was referencing the 23rd century American reboot, where the main character is named Dr. Thelonius Who, and he works out of a P.H.O.N.E.B.O.O.T.H. (Pictorially Highly Ordinary Navigational Engine, Oddly Oversized, Tangentally Huge)

I just thought he was referring to the show and not the character. Therefore, referring to the show's usage of a device that is bigger on the inside and not the character's usage of said device. A subtle difference.

 

[Phoenix219]

yeah I think Issac being a robot and Asimov's genre role with robots (3 laws and all that) is probably more likely a source for the name than any association between Roddenberry and Asimov.

Right, but my first impression was that the names were a joke on Isaac Newton. The Asimov/positronic brain homage wasn't the first thing I thought of.

 

[Shawnster]

I'm having trouble reconciling intelligent LaMarr with the LaMarr from "Majority Rule" who seemed too incompetent to aid in his own life - or-death defense.

 

[cylkoth]

^^ Get in line. I cannot scrub from my memory Grayson having to yell at him not once, not twice, but three times to get down off that damn statue, while they were on what was supposed to be a covert rescue op to find missing Union personnel. That behavior was simply too dumb to tolerate and in no way shape or form, the actions of someone possessing a genius level IQ. I really didn't enjoy the script forcing Grayson to essentially ignore his disrepect of her authority and advocate a bump in rank for him. Not without clearing the over that incident.

 

[137th Gebirg]

FWIW, in my experience, people with hyper-genius IQ's have very little in the way of common sense or social graces.

 

[Mr Awe]

People here seem to have a hard time understanding that. The Orville is not better than Discovery and vice-versa, because it is all a matter of preference. I get that many don't like Discovery and that's fine, but my point, and one I have to keep making, is that not liking it doesn't mean you have to constantly compare it, unfavorably, to The Orville. Doing so only makes it look more like The Orville can't stand on its own.

Well, yeah, I do agree with that. And, you have wonder why they don't have anything better to do. I mean, when I don't like a show, I put it out of my mind completely. I'm not going to be incessantly bringing it up. Life's too short!

That said, they do have the right to bitch and moan if that's how they choose to spend their time.

 

[Satron]

I get that many don't like Discovery and that's fine, but my point, and one I have to keep making, is that not liking it doesn't mean you have to constantly compare it, unfavorably, to The Orville. Doing so only makes it look more like The Orville can't stand on its own.

There are two Star Trek shows on at the moment. You can't expect people not to compare the two.

 

[shivkala]

There are two Star Trek shows on at the moment. You can't expect people not to compare the two.

No. There's one Star Trek show and one non-Star Trek show on at the moment. The Orville has similarities to Star Trek, but it is not Star Trek by any measure.

That's like saying, "Tonight we have our choice of two Star Wars movies: The Empire Strikes Back or Spaceballs."

 

[Mudd]

I like LaMarr's character; there are some surprises there. MacFarlane presents Gordon and Jon initially as two peas in a pod who quickly fall into a broship, and the writers have slowly differentiated them.

I don't think "The Krill" was as effective a showcase for Gordon as the two focusing on Jon have been, but I liked that episode a lot for other reasons.

 

[The Wormhole]

I don't get why everyone keeps getting hung up on the dry-humping the statue incident. It was a moment of goofing off that ended up backfiring and having disastrous consequences. Okay you can go on about how it was a covert extraction mission and they weren't trying to draw attention to themselves, but the truth is the best way to avoid drawing attention to yourself is to act naturally, and to John that was acting naturally. He had no way of knowing previously that humping a statue on this world would get him on trial that could result in him being lobotomized. He figured it would probably just result in some of the passersby reacting to him, and maybe they'd share a story with their friends and family and then forget the incident. Just because someone's a genius doesn't mean they don't still make mistakes or bad judgment calls.

 

[Mudd]

I think he was just clowning around with Alara and a little oblivious to his surroundings.

 

[Nakita Akita]

There are two Star Trek shows on at the moment. You can't expect people not to compare the two.

Well, one is free and the other is not.
So some of us choose not to view the other one of are unable to view it.

I look at it as if I came here and started talking about puppies and crochet patterns.

Discovery is not related to the Orville.

 

[BillJ]

Discovery is not related to the Orville.

But it is related to "Star Trek", as is The Orville due to its DNA. Comparisons are going to be there, whether folks like it or not.

 

[Nakita Akita]

I hope they have Lamarr's seat taken each week with the non-speaking fill-in.
We need some deaths on the bridge by exploding work panel.
I totally miss the exploding panels.

 

[BillJ]

I hope they have Lamarr's seat taken each week with the non-speaking fill-in.
We need some deaths on the bridge by exploding work panel.
I totally miss the exploding panels.

Didn't they have one in "Firestorm"?

 

[Nakita Akita]

Didn't they have one in "Firestorm"?

There needs to be more than just one.
And what about a dead bridge officer?
Alara: Sir Ensign Dawaleep is dead!

Captain: Thanks Alara. Who replicated this bacon lettuce and tomato sandwich? I need to use the replicator.

 

[Mudd]

Maybe they'll assign Dann.

 

[ChasFink]

There needs to be more than just one.

But since it was established that there is a fire suppression system, it would have to be the fire suppression system panel every time.

Maybe they'll assign Dann.

I thought that was the natural choice. I'm really getting to like Dann.