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Ah, fair enough. Might have a cameo or two at the end or a framing story (a la Strangers From the Sky) though, never know.
I don't need Star Trek.
But I love the Kelvin universe and wouldn't mind it continuing.
And yet, here you are -- in the forum provided entirely for the purpose of discussing movies set in the Kelvin timeline (including the as-yet-unwritten-and-at-this-point-completely-hypothetical next movie which is the subject of this thread.)
Tell me what it is you'd rather be talking about, and I will endeavor to direct you to the forum where that's happening. Because, if you are looking for conversations about
then this may not be the best forum for you.
I don't need any timeline to enjoy Star Trek, just good stories.
So, I'm not sure if this means anything, but Zoe Saldana has supposedly signed on for Star Trek 4.
screenrant.com
Star Trek 4: Zoe Saldaña Has Reportedly Signed On To Return, Uhura Star Shares Her Story Hopes
The long-gestating sequel gets an update.
screenrant.com
One of the things I enjoy most about Star Trek is the massive shared universe. I can get stories anywhere.
The massive shared universe has become dull and uninspired. Just playing check the nostalgia checkbox now.
So, I'm not sure if this means anything, but Zoe Saldana has supposedly signed on for Star Trek 4.
Star Trek 4: Zoe Saldaña Has Reportedly Signed On To Return, Uhura Star Shares Her Story Hopes
The long-gestating sequel gets an update.
The clock is ticking on Strange New Worlds.
No way Paramount is going to tolerate two Kirks, two Spocks, two Scottys, and two Uhuras existing in the same time period in two different universes.
Talk about confusing continuities!
It's done its job. It's filler until the next movie.
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So, I'm not sure if this means anything, but Zoe Saldana has supposedly signed on for Star Trek 4.
Star Trek 4: Zoe Saldaña Has Reportedly Signed On To Return, Uhura Star Shares Her Story Hopes
The long-gestating sequel gets an update.
The clock is ticking on Strange New Worlds.
No way Paramount is going to tolerate two Kirks, two Spocks, two Scottys, and two Uhuras existing in the same time period in two different universes.
Talk about confusing continuities!
It's done its job. It's filler until the next movie.
Screenrant is a known clickbait site.
The clock is ticking on Strange New Worlds.
No way Paramount is going to tolerate two Kirks, two Spocks, two Scottys, and two Uhuras existing in the same time period in two different universes.
Talk about confusing continuities!
It's done its job. It's filler until the next movie.
Yup. And if it weren't, Paramount has still made no progress on this film in 8 years and at one point actually outright lied about all the actors being signed on to return when none of them had even been contacted. This film is dead.
Plus, audiences have never had any problem differentiating the movie Superman from the tv Superman, Marvel and Fox did not crash and burn because they both used Quicksilver in two different continuities only a few months apart, Spider-man No Way Home put three different Spidey actors in the same movie and that earned literally all the box office (and it also didn't at all stand in the way of the completely separate Spider-verse movies succeeding), and WB is currently developing a new DCU Batman film while also continuing the succesful Batman universe of Matt Reeves. *If* they finally put a new Kirk and Spock on the silver screen, that still means absolutely nothing for SNW.
Yes, and reading the Variety article it cites merely says she's waiting on a script. I.E. Nothing.
Also I'm calling the Kelvinverse prequel film dead, since it was supposed to be filming now. All just to hype up investors, and I'm sure they're as tired of it now as us fans are.
EDIT: It's actually in pre-production but that's still far from actually happening.
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I'm sure they can, but what about new fans? What about fans who are new to the franchise?
Paramount tries to avoid clashing continuities (it's one reason the Kelvin universe exists). They're trying to keep the number of universes to a minimum (Those Old Scientists gleefully did a two-step around the idea).
DC solves it via multiple Earths (Earth-3, Earth-528, Earth-47). And every few years, they reset everything with Crisis on Infinite Earths (they had the last live-action one in 2019).
DC did a hard reboot of their comic book universe a few years back (they reset every line back to issue #1).
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Ye, it seems to be hard to create new interesting characters. Don't understand why. Even I could
All of the new Star Treks have had new and interesting characters. I can even say about Discovery, the one I dislike the most.
Saru was awesome. They just were insistent on focusing on a character who sucked.
Lower Decks has Mariner who is awesome.
Picard had a few, Rios was pretty cool. Raffi was... acceptable. Shaw was awesome. Vadic was one of the better villains.
SNW is probably the weakest on good NEW characters, but despite sharing names with legacy characters, they're all basically nothing like those character so they're all kind of new.
What I would say is... it's actually not hard hard at all to have interesting characters AND continue forwards with a shared universe. A big protip would be... Stop. Fucking. Making. Prequels.
It doesn't need the nostalgia. I'm fine with that too, but it's totally doable to make a story that actually advances the world without relying on nostalgia. I just want to look and feel like the established universe. If I got a restaurant and order steak... I want steak. If they bring out chicken to me, i'm like, chicken is good and everything but that's not what I wanted.
Rebirth or New 52? Both did that, but Rebirth was just undoing what New 52 had done. For context, the New 52 was an effort to tear down the universe they had and build a new, darker and edgier one. It was so widely hated that they made Rebirth, a lengthy nostalgia-fest that served as a groveling apology for the New 52. I dislike both in equal measure, and neither is very applicable here.
I don't remember what it was called (if anything).
DC put out a press release and said, "We're taking everything back to Issue Number One."
Most of DC's biggest titles (Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, etc.) got rolled back to Issue Number One. They wanted to give fans who might've missed when they first came out decades ago a chance to start over.
We might be talking about two separate events.
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The Kelvin universe exists because they wanted to start fresh with the movies after Enterprise failed to excite people. It exists separately because Paramount and CBS were forcibly separated by law for a while, though they're back together again now.
And DC comics history really doesn't have anything to do with live action. Comics are a completely different world. The COIE live action stuff is nothing more than a tv show adapting a popular comic - it did absolutely nothing whatsoever to 'reset everything'. It didn't even affect most of the ongoing DC live action productions.
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