The New USS Discovery....

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by stueyross, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. Ometiklan

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    Going back to the discussion of the gap/cutouts and the connecting bridges, while I would like to see a couple more connections in total, I think there is a very reasonable explanation on why having only a few bridges isn't as much of a transport problem as some people might be thinking. In any Starfleet ship design, there aren't just hallways or open spaces everywhere, most of the internal space is rooms - large blocks of rooms. So if you needed to get from one "ring" to another walking or via turbolift, you can't just go straight from point A to point B, even in a contiguous saucer. You have to take available corridors. Thus you only need a few main connections between the rings. And the number of connections doesn't need to be big, especially on a 23rd century ship (compared to, say, the Ent-D).

    For some reason, I hadn't originally thought of this, so I figured I would point it out for others who might have missed it as well.
     
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  2. KirkusOveractus

    KirkusOveractus Commodore Commodore

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    Kind of using the "hub and spoke" system? I like that. Never thought of that!
     
  3. Blamo

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    It's just ugly.

    There's no in depth argument to be had about the logic or illogic of it's design, it's just plain ugly. It looks like a bad kitbash that'd be in the background of a starship graveyard.
     
  4. Tuskin38

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    In your opinion.

    as you can see from this thread there are quite a few people who do like it, and don't think it is ugly.
     
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  5. Serveaux

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    Completely subjecitve; no fact here.

    There can always be discussion, at length, about any matter of taste and opinion. Whether that's productive or not is itself a matter of taste and opinion.
     
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  6. KirkusOveractus

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    Well, a version of it was in Wolf 359, and another in spacedock in TSFS...

    But like other things we're discussing on here, the look is subjective. I love the look of it, and it does fit in with what could be a starship developed a little over a decade or so pre-TOS, to me.
     
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  7. Mage

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    Thank you for coming in this thread and telling us how it us so we don't have to form opinions of our own. Saves us a buttload of trouble.
     
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  8. RAMA

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    Some clearer images I cleaned up.
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    It's a great design with a majestic looking saucer from many angles. My only complaint: those nacelles are too long.
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    Some of you will find this familiar.
     
  9. Kemaiku

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    The pylons going right into the nacelles looks better than the small upturn on previous versions. You can just about see the bridge in the second image.

    I wonder if those connections are walkways at all, and given how thin the saucer is, does it simply have turbolifts spin around the sections at high speed, then they move across the four bridges into the next ring?
     
  10. Jesse1066

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    Why are all the images labeled "Tennessee Honey?"
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  11. KirkusOveractus

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    I think that was the production's code name as they were designing it.
     
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  12. The Librarian

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    It looks to me like even the 'final' Shenzhou concept art doesn't quite match the actual version we've seen in the trailer, as it lacks the two rows of windows on the parts between the nacelles. I wouldn't be surprised if there were some tweaks to the Discovery too as it went from concept to a fully details model, possibly including the slightly shorter nacelles the poster seems to have.
     
  13. Serveaux

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    It's interesting that they aren't using any fully rendered, finished images of either Shenzhou or Discovery to promote the show yet other than in the trailer itself. They're saving them.

    Maybe tomorrow.
     
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  14. PixelMagic

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    Perhaps tomorrow in a trailer we'll see the final VFX models.
     
  15. Serveaux

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    One hopes so.

    This should be, as Joe Biden would say, a Big Fucking Deal.
     
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  16. Tuskin38

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    I wonder if they'll show any exclusive clips to only the Comic-Con audience.
     
  17. RAMA

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    Last year the Beyond trailer was shown, then released on YouTube later. I expect the same tomorrow.
     
  18. DrCorby

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    There are 4 triangular markings on the underside of the outer saucer ring. These look similar to markings on the TOS Enterprise that were often labeled as retractable landing struts. Could these have a similar purpose? Would the connecting struts between rings provide sufficient support for landing in non-negligible gravity?

    I had also always wondered how the TOS Enterprise saucer could make a vertical landing without any visible downward thrust ports on the bottom of the saucer. Likewise, I don't see anything like that on Discovery. It probably makes more sense the way the Enterprise-D did it -- thrusters to help keep the saucer level during descent, then sliding on its belly until it stopped. Not glamorous, but effective.
     
  19. Tuskin38

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    Well I mean actual scenes from the show, not just the trailer.

    Maybe the first few minutes of the Pilot or something. A thing shown only for comic-con.
     
  20. HansOlo

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    Since the last trailer was released I had the feeling the next one should be solely about the Discovery and its crew (Captain Lorca, I'm looking at your direction). Hopefully we'll get to see something tomorrow.