The New Mutants -- news, rumors, opix, etc;

[JD]

IGN has posted an article explaining why The New Mutants has to be released in theaters. Apparently Fox made a deal with HBO that said their movies would first stream on HBO Go or HBO Now, and that deal still holds now that Disney owns Fox. So the only way it could go to streaming is if Disney renegotiated that deal with HBO, and renegotiated the actors' contracts.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Bill Sienkiewicz produced artwork for the credit sequence.

https://www.cbr.com/the-new-mutants..._0z3KR_PUex_UOxgqVwLH-AeHL2LSguliDJn2-Vg9v4DY

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Oh, that's pretty cool! I don't think that's happened before, where an artist contributed directly to a live-action film adaptation based on their work (but I could be wrong).

 

[Tosk]

Alex Ross worked on Spidey comics before doing art for the credits of Spider-Man 2. Does that count?

 

[FPAlpha]

It's not just that I want to end the series on a high note (although that's a huge part of it), ending it with Hugh Jackman and Patrick Stewart just has a nice feeling of coming full circle with the whole franchise.

You can safely skip Dark Phoenix - it is just an awful movie (in the same category as X-Men Last Stand) and you won't miss anything but i strongly urge you to see Logan, as perfect a Wolverine movie as you'll ever get.

 

[Turtletrekker]

You can safely skip Dark Phoenix - it is just an awful movie (in the same category as X-Men Last Stand) and you won't miss anything but i strongly urge you to see Logan, as perfect a Wolverine movie as you'll ever get.

Alas, I have seen Dark Phoenix, twice in fact. And I didn't have to pay either time, both times through entirely legal means. In other words, I got my money's worth.

 

[Christopher]

Oh, that's pretty cool! I don't think that's happened before, where an artist contributed directly to a live-action film adaptation based on their work (but I could be wrong).

Jack Kirby had a cameo as a police sketch artist in The Incredible Hulk: "No Escape" in 1979, though I don't recall if he actually drew the sketch that was shown. Similarly, the 1989 Batman movie has a scene where a sketch artist hands Alexander Knox a cartoon of a "bat-man" signed by Bob Kane, but it's unclear who actually drew the cartoon (as is true of 90-odd% of the work signed by Bob Kane, really).

 

[Alidar Jarok]

If you have extremely low expectations, Dark Phoenix is an OK movie. I liked the beginning scene with the X-Men and I liked that Scott didn't die early.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, I actually kind of liked Dark Phoenix. It suffered from very, very weak casting of Phoenix and Cyclops, but otherwise it wasn't bad, an imperfect but respectable "do-over" that was somewhat successful as a counterpoint to X-Men: The Last Stand, getting right(ish) what it botched. And it had pretty impressive action.

 

[Reverend]

If you have extremely low expectations, Dark Phoenix is an OK movie. I liked the beginning scene with the X-Men and I liked that Scott didn't die early.

I Beg to differ. Having had *very* low expectations going in based on how lacklustre the last one was and the fairly public rumblings during production...and yet it still managed to disappoint. Zero effort from the director's chair, a cast that were split between "making the most of less than nothing" and "so over it they're not even phoning it in so much as having their personal assistant's intern semaphore it in". The less said about the plot the better since I honestly don't remember a single salient point other than it had something to do with "NOT-Skrulls" doing...something...because reasons...and Phoenix = bad?

The only positive thing about this movie is that cameo for 'Deadpool 2' they filmed at the time...kinda feels ironic in a way since it was done like the "grown-up" end of the franchise was throwing the little newbie a bone, and yet those two movies blew the established brand out of the water. Not to belabour it, but how far off the rails is the franchise when the dick-joke laden quasi parody spin-off is doing a more faithful portrayal of the source material and actually having the likes of Colossus and Juggernaut actually feel like the characters from the comics?

 

[Kai "the spy"]

The best thing about Dark Phoenix was the Honest Trailer.

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On second thought, the actually best thing about Dark Phoenix was the 48-minute Honest Trailers Commentary:

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It's actually fun to watch the guys and gals (especially Dan Murrell) nearly despair over this movie.

 

[Masiral]

I loved Dark Phoenix. I wish we could have gotten a sequel.

 

[JD]

This isn't actually about The New Mutants, but since this is the only X-Men movie thread active I'm just putting it here.
During IGN's recent Watch From Home Theater with Simon Kinberg and X-Men: Days of Future Past, Kinberg revealed that Mr. Sinister was supposed to make his first appearance in the Channing Tatum Gambit movie.
I know he was a character a lot of X-Men wanted to see, so it is a bit disappointing to hear that we were so close to finally seeing him.

 

[Skywalker]

It's fine. We'll see him probably sooner than later once Marvel Studios get their X-Men movies going.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

It's fine. We'll see him probably sooner than later once Marvel Studios get their X-Men movies going.

My thoughts exactly, although I say that as someone who has no investment in the character.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Josh Boone says he has a trilogy planned out and hopes to make it if the first film is successful and the studio is interested.

I certainly would like to see that come to fruition but that seems unlikely considering, well, everything.

 

[JD]

Yeah, everything around this movie has been such a mess, I can't see it getting any sequels unless it's a Endgame level hit.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Not even so much that (which doesn't help any) but I was thinking more of the fact that the film (and any potential continuation of it) wouldn't fit with the grand MCU master plan. On the other hand, there's also Deadpool and it seems unlikely we won't get anymore of those, so maybe The New Mutants can exist in the same corner of the universe as that franchise.

The other big problem, of course, is the COVID-19 pandemic. We have no idea when things will return to "normal," let alone resuming regular film productions (despite tentative green lights in places like the Czech Republic), which have all have been delayed. Those delays cost money and there are a number productions much further ahead than any potential sequels to The New Mutants.

 

[JD]

Stuff is starting, the Avatar sequels crew is back in New Zealand, and about to start work again, and the other day the UK announced they were ready to start allowing filming again. The big question now is whether they'll be able to continue or if things will get bad enough they have to stop again.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, everything around this movie has been such a mess, I can't see it getting any sequels unless it's a Endgame level hit.

"Everything?" Not really, just the release schedule and the complications from the studio buyout, which are larger issues that shouldn't reflect on the movie's own merits. For all the rumors of reshoots, we ended up (or will end up) getting the movie they originally shot, so it's ultimately pretty straightforward.

Not even so much that (which doesn't help any) but I was thinking more of the fact that the film (and any potential continuation of it) wouldn't fit with the grand MCU master plan.

Any useful master plan is adaptable. The MCU master plan changed when they struck a deal to let them use Spider-Man. It changed when they broke with Ike Perlmutter and were free of his insistence on an Inhumans movie and his resistance to female and minority leads. Before that, it changed when they decided not to do a Hulk sequel and replaced their tentative Runaways movie with The Avengers (good choice).