The New Klingons
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That is true, for as many good points as Tom Paris had he was still a massively superficial person when it came to women.
People are going to love these Klingons once they see how they are more developed and less animalistic. Then the visual "shock" element will be lost and almost everyone will like their look as well.
Ask a non-Trekker which one is better or more alien (without Trekker preconception) and the results of the poll here would be quite different.
RAMA
Ask a non-Trekker which one is better or more alien (without Trekker preconception) and the results of the poll here would be quite different.
RAMA
They love it in the morning. It smells like... victory.
That's what I want from the Klingons on DSC. I wanted them to have some depth, have the refined speaking ability that someone like John Colicos had (because that seems more menacing to me), and be more than the grunting antagonist.
Damn...a two-fer. I can't beat that one.
I love the new look. I can see issues ahead. Many seem to expect the look to be explained or fit into the wider franchise. I don't. Simply because I don't think they care that much.
It's hard not to feel though in the extensive interview Neville Page was very very much looking to 'assign' the redesign away from himself. In a really polite, respectful way. It's really clear as you watch further in that he's not comfortable with the way things turned out.
He does excellent work and is incredibly talented and I think he feels railroaded into certain decisions. Still, the amount of times the guy makes statements about how without production control and directorial input means his creatures look radically different is telling.
Finally, trying various sources and media releases attempting to drop all of this Klingon nonsense at Fuller's door, rightly or wrongly, is a cheap move. It's not a coincidence that this information appeared, along with this interview. Whether necessary or not, (I say not), someone at the production is on damage control. These kinds of 'tid bits' of information about Fuller aren't a coincidence in my opinion. They are press releases with embargos. Which makes me think that the truth is there isn't a lot of confidence in Discovery.
Which is sad considering the stellar cast, insanely good production values, and decent CGI.
I feel the production team have backed themselves into a corner for absolutely no good reason. If Discovery delivers it won't matter one jot. If it doesn't then people will lump the Klingon redesign into the same issue as breaking canon, but saying it doesn't, the fungus issue no one wants to talk about, and the transdimensional rumors.
Future humans will learn to move beyond superficial (and changing) concepts of physical attractiveness. This will lead to more inter-species romances such as human and Gorn, human and Horta, human and Tellarite, human and Tholian, human and Mugato, human and Species 8-4-7-2, etc.
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Which does harken back to Meyer's portrayal of them in ST6, which Fuller called a "touchstone" for the series. Now his remarks make sense.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Klingons might think pink skins are as ugly as shit.
We already know the results of such a poll from the Youtube Trailer ratings.
And the numbers are the same.
They haven't backed themselves into a corner yet.
If things flop they can just add an episode with real Klingons in them and call the re-made one's a sub-species or genetic engineering accident.
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Well, this is a series with the Star Trek name, and the one race in it are called the Klingons. Therefore, they are real Klingons as well.
Maybe the Klingons are so famous that Aliens pretend to be them and thus the unsuspecting Discovery crew thing they are the real klingons as they never met one....
I donno... they did that in that VOY episode 'live fast and prosper'
I donno... they did that in that VOY episode 'live fast and prosper'
because standards of beauty of been so rigid throughout human history?
