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The New Klingons

Do you like the design of these new Klingons? What was your gut reaction?

  • I liked them

    Votes: 127 46.4%
  • I did not like them

    Votes: 147 53.6%

  • Total voters
    274
With the two exceptions, of course, of Mark Lenard's character and his old war buddy. :)
Well they're the important ones. Wait, that makes no sense. If they're important then they should be the only ones to get head protection while the underlings just have to hope nothing falls on their heads.
 
Well they're the important ones. Wait, that makes no sense. If they're important then they should be the only ones to get head protection while the underlings just have to hope nothing falls on their heads.

Traditionally, it was privates who wore helmets and officers wore caps. And when officers started wearing helmets it displayed their rank which was even more dangerous.
 
Yep, WWII I think started that trend. By Vietnam most officers realized that they shouldn't wear rank devices in the field at all, because snipers were specifically looking for them. Mostly fresh-out-of-OCS 2LT's who hadn't learned the ropes yet. I recall 17 seconds being the average life expectancy of a green butter-bar.
 
Traditionally, it was privates who wore helmets and officers wore caps. And when officers started wearing helmets it displayed their rank which was even more dangerous.
Like the old British soldiers thinking how smart their bright red uniforms looked. I wonder how many were killed before they realized it made camouflage impossible.
 
If they got shot, their men wouldn't see the blood gushing out as easily and break morale.

"Punjab! Be a good chap and fetch me my brown pants, poste haste!"
 
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Actually, from what I've read, those red uniforms would have been barely visible at all under live battlefield conditions of the time, in which the air was filled with dust and smoke from the black gunpowder that was in use until well into the 19th century.

Bright colors were the only way to be seen at all and avoid friendly fire. You were shooting through a thick fog, and if you caught a blurry glimpse of something closer by and faintly reddish through all that haze, then you knew it was a soldier on your side, and you better aim somewhere else.

Kor
 
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Like the old British soldiers thinking how smart their bright red uniforms looked. I wonder how many were killed before they realized it made camouflage impossible.

To add too what Kor has said.

Camo has not the point. It was not even thought of. You fought in formation, in a line. It was not until rifling that the formation lost its use and power. A massed musket barrage was devastating. Ya know, if they hit. And the only thing short of canons that could meet it would be another formation.

Rifling changed all this.
 
Exactly what @Kor said. If they pull it off, then they can take a similar approach to the other aliens and push the envelope even further. New aliens would be great and we need them too, but it's much harder to break new species that are worthy of long term development.
 
I like the new Klingons precisely because I don't like them. Give me something different, something that challenges my preconceived notions, not just more of the same old comfortable thing. And these Klingons are rather different.

Kor
I sort of get what your saying but I still think some kind of in-universe explanation is important only because it's prime timeline. If it were a new timeline, or Kelvin timeline it would be fair game.
 
I sort of get what your saying but I still think some kind of in-universe explanation is important only because it's prime timeline. If it were a new timeline, or Kelvin timeline it would be fair game.
Not sure why that makes a difference. The Kelvin timeline is a branch of the Prime. In theory the Klingons should look the same.
 
Yes, yes, the Klingons were very different 1979 (and then 1984) onwards BUT their unique turtle heads became iconic not just with Trekkies but also casuals/non-fans, so I don't get changing their appearance so much that you can't immediately identify them as Klingons. :shrug:
 
Yes, yes, the Klingons were very different 1979 (and then 1984) onwards BUT their unique turtle heads became iconic not just with Trekkies but also casuals/non-fans, so I don't get changing their appearance so much that you can't immediately identify them as Klingons. :shrug:
They still have turtle heads.
 
Also, the Klingons are an alien race, so there should be some variations within ridges, growth, etc.
We got different takes in almost all of the TOS films and every major 24th Century Klingon had a different ridge pattern. So there was already a lot of variation.
 
True. And the TNG heads were done for economy's sake. They didn't have to use individual pieces custom fit to the actor's head like they did in the films. And no need to shave back the hair, etc. They just slapped them on and hid the seam under the eyebrows. Londo Molari in B5 was similar. They shaved his hair for the pilot movie, and then made rubber head for the series because he didn't want to bald for better part of 5 years. They have much more money and lead time now to make something better.
 
We got different takes in almost all of the TOS films and every major 24th Century Klingon had a different ridge pattern. So there was already a lot of variation.
Right, which is why DSC Klingons feel like more of the same, and clamoring for cookie cutter of TNG is strange to me.
 
The differences could be as simple as the Hur'q relocating original Klingons to whatever worlds they wanted them on.

Then the Klingons had a get-together with the naitives and BAM, different sub-species.
 
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