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The New Alchemy - Gold

Dryson

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Researchers Find A Way To Create Solid Gold From a Toxic Liquid.

Alchemists have dreamed for many years of making gold from common metals (writings about mythical philosopher's stone date back to ancient times) A pair of Michigan State University professors have figured out to do it with the help of an extremophile bacteria, Cupriavidus metallidurans, excrete 24-karat nuggets of gold after being fed gold chloride, a naturally occurring liquid compound. "We're transforming something that has no value into a solid precious metal," says MSU microbiology professor Kazem Kashefi.

To display its microbial alchemy, the team built a portable laboratory/art exhibit in Linz, Austria that includes a custom glass incubator. The bacteria, which the researchers discovered were 25 time more resistant to the toxic gold chloride than are other bacteria, metabolized the liquid in just a week.

Popular Mechanics - Volume 190, No. 1, 9th page in.

Although not a cost effective method of creating a large gold reserve for yourself the fact that bacteria can turn a liquid into gold creates a new thought process relating to worlds that might have vast quantities of gold on it.

If bacteria is able to make gold nuggets then perhaps the gold that we have on our planet was created by bacteria traveling through space during the primordial phase of Earths evolution that came into contact with the various chemicals needed to produce gold chloride that they then fed on to create the gold veins that we have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold

Another positive is if we look at the Witwatersrand Basin and the impact crater that occurred 2.020 billion years ago we can see that yellow layer or where the Cupriavidus metallidurans would have been located on the asteroid and would have been the first area of the surface of the asteroid to come into contact with the Earth and experience the most pressure and heat and other chemical compounds super heated to extreme temperatures to cause the reaction to take place and then because of the reaction being deep underground the bacteria would have been able to convert the gold chloride that when left behind as excrement would have been compressed over billions of years to become nuggets of gold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witwatersrand_Basin

If this event took place on Earth and because of the Uncertainty Principle then is more than likely that more than one asteroid with Cupriavidus metallidurans embedded in its matrix would been roaming throughout the Universe and making similar impacts at around the same time as the impact on Earth took place.
 
Or, more simply, the gold was already here.

#53: Did Earth’s Gold Come From Outer Space?


http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jan-feb/53

The platinum in your wedding 
ring and the gold in your dental fillings most likely arrived on Earth in a furious meteoric bombardment 200 million years after the planet’s formation, University of Bristol geologist Matthias Willbold reports. According to standard planetary formation models, the gold, platinum, and tungsten that were present when Earth was born should have quickly bonded to iron and sunk into the planet’s core. Those precious metals are thousands of times more prevalent on the surface of Earth and in its mantle than the models predict.
 
Or, more simply, the gold was already here.

#53: Did Earth’s Gold Come From Outer Space?


http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jan-feb/53

The platinum in your wedding 
ring and the gold in your dental fillings most likely arrived on Earth in a furious meteoric bombardment 200 million years after the planet’s formation, University of Bristol geologist Matthias Willbold reports. According to standard planetary formation models, the gold, platinum, and tungsten that were present when Earth was born should have quickly bonded to iron and sunk into the planet’s core. Those precious metals are thousands of times more prevalent on the surface of Earth and in its mantle than the models predict.

Everything came from outer space, including the Earth.
 
If bacteria is able to make gold nuggets then perhaps the gold that we have on our planet was created by bacteria traveling through space during the primordial phase of Earths evolution that came into contact with the various chemicals needed to produce gold chloride that they then fed on to create the gold veins that we have.

The platinum in your wedding 
ring and the gold in your dental fillings most likely arrived on Earth in a furious meteoric bombardment 200 million years after the planet’s formation ... the gold, platinum, and tungsten that were present when Earth was born should have quickly bonded to iron and sunk into the planet’s core.

And strangely, you don't postulate a bacterial origin for platinum and tungsten.

  • Platinum and tungsten are simply from outer space.
  • But gold is from outer space bacteria.
  • And some posters are from the Twilight Zone.
 
So bacteria can extract gold from a compound that already has gold in it? Color me stunned.

That's not "alchemy," by the way.
 
Dryson,

You and I have shared some lengthy emails, early on. (The Case of the Geometry of the Big Bang, etc.) Take it from someone who thought he was posting clear, unique, and interesting comments, and take it from someone who learned from others on this Forum. If you are serious about your posts, may I suggest reviewing some basic Science, Chemistry and Astronomy texts. If you are having a bit of a laugh, you may be as alone as that gold or Latinum or whatever that sank and bonded with the lead. With no insult or disrespect intended.
 
Glenn Seaborg turned bismuth into gold in 1980. Twas much more impressive. I think he actually did it with lead too, to troll alchemists, but I can't find a reputable quote on that.
 
Or, more simply, the gold was already here.

#53: Did Earth’s Gold Come From Outer Space?


http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jan-feb/53

The platinum in your wedding 
ring and the gold in your dental fillings most likely arrived on Earth in a furious meteoric bombardment 200 million years after the planet’s formation, University of Bristol geologist Matthias Willbold reports. According to standard planetary formation models, the gold, platinum, and tungsten that were present when Earth was born should have quickly bonded to iron and sunk into the planet’s core. Those precious metals are thousands of times more prevalent on the surface of Earth and in its mantle than the models predict.

Everything came from outer space, including the Earth.

Even including the space, since space is expanding.
 
Instead of merely saying no back up your responses with YOUR OWN experimental data that you have concluded from doing your own experiments to come to the conclusion instead of relying on a hand me out that someone else has already concluded especially the play on words and the semantics that only prove you can twist words around.
 
perhaps the gold that we have on our planet was created by bacteria traveling through space during the primordial phase of Earths evolution that came into contact with the various chemicals needed to produce gold chloride that they then fed on to create the gold veins that we have.
Do you really not understand that one of the "chemicals" in gold chloride is gold?

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Everything came from outer space, including the Earth.

Even including the space, since space is expanding.

Indeed, you are correct sir!

Instead of merely saying no back up your responses with YOUR OWN experimental data that you have concluded from doing your own experiments to come to the conclusion instead of relying on a hand me out that someone else has already concluded especially the play on words and the semantics that only prove you can twist words around.

I can turn table salt into a delicious stew. All I require is the makings of a stew, and some table salt. Watch upon me with wonder as I perform feats of alchemic brilliance.
 
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