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The Nature of the Universe, Time Travel and More...

Most people should avoid telling their dreams to others as no-one wants to know. I only thought to mention these because they were so strange and that I can remember them.
I am quite glad you did tell. I have never, that I know, heard of bubble universe, but one of my episodes was about a dream world in which the astro-physicist was dreaming about the universe being like a vast collection of soap foam bubbles. I didn't go into detail about it. Just a quick scene. Interesting.

-Will
 
I am quite glad you did tell. I have never, that I know, heard of bubble universe, but one of my episodes was about a dream world in which the astrophysicist was dreaming about the universe being like a vast collection of soap foam bubbles. I didn't go into detail about it. Just a quick scene. Interesting.
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So bubble is just the analogy they are using to describe multiple universes, not that they are a collection of discrete, bubble shaped, universes held together in some meta-foam aether.

Does this theory preclude overlapping space-time, or some other shared dimension. The bubble universes makes it sound like it would be possible to travel between universe bubbles, but only by navigating out of one spacial universe before entering the other. Is there a spacial relationship? Are there some pairs of universes that are farther apart than other pairs of universes? Are there universes that can only be reached by passing through an intervening universe(s)?

Of course we can't really know the answers to these questions except to say, the theory supports one state or another.

-Will
 
It's just one of several multiverse theories. None might be true; some might be true; all might be true. It's impossible to travel between bubble universes generally because eternal inflation is faster than c. You can't exist in the vacuum state between them as it would destroy matter. It's really just metaphysics because how do you falsify such ideas? We're totally insignificant on the scale of one universe as it is.
 
YouTube video overview of eternal cosmic inflation theory and how it relates to bubble universes:

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As Arvin Ash states, we might never be able to test this directly, but various high energy physics and gravitational wave detection experiments might find corroborating evidence that it could be correct.
 
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I am a big fan of Star Trek (I know. I can hear you saying “no duh!”)
If these space bubbles are separate universes, then wouldn’t the distance between them be subspace?
If so, there should be no force (no gravity, strong or weak force?) to act on high level particles/waves. Could this lack of medium allow communication to travel faster that light?
Just a theory. ;)
 
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Could this lack of medium allow communication to travel faster that light?
Just a theory. ;)
Or no travel at all, beyond some particle that contains its own medium. That would mean, no force or energy can be added to the system, so all possible accelerations would cease, and whatever velocity was achieved, pre-bubble universe exit, would be maintained. No ftl travel. On the other hand, distance may have no meaning, so instantaneous traversing between bubbles, all bubbles.

Which bubble universe is reached would have to be based on a form of uncertainty principle.

-Will
 
So, initial expansion was faster than light, for a very brief period of time. That would mean, if we are observing the universe from a point along a path that had originated with and at the convergence of the "Big Bang", we could still possibly be outside the leading edge of light that traveled out of the Singularity that created us; and we might be able to look back along our route and see such an after image as it caught up to us because we are slowing down below light speed.

I would assume, that image has already sailed by, long before conscious eyes could witness it, but what if not?

A Big Bang. A traveling and slowing point is created by said event, but it is initially pushed outward faster than light can travel. A viewer would thus be able to witness the event that they themselves had been in the center of, and watch their own creation from outside the event. It would appear as though the expansion happened far away, threw out matter, light, energy, and created another Earth, for example, and it was hurtling towards us, slowing down, as it got closer and closer until it was right beside us, moving at slightly greater velocity then we are, it would appear to finally crash gently into us and merge just at exactly the point at which its slowing velocity equaled our own. After that, it would vanish, seemingly becoming one with us.

At that point, only distant images of slower object that never catch up, would reach us. We would appear to be accelerating away from them instead of them decelerating as they caught up to us. The same would be true of objects ahead of us in our path of expansion. If we were, more or less, decelerating at a similar rate in spacial relationship to our distance from our origin, they would appear to be accelerating just as measurably as we were decelerating.

-Will
 
No, the expansion is eternal. Our universe would be just in one tiny area that changed state - like a nucleated bubble in a supercritical fluid. What isn't clear is whether the maximum speed of information (c) is the same in all regions, independent of state. Each bubble might well have different values of c, e, and h - we just don't know. There is the vacuum in whatever state it is in locally in the eternally expanding region, but we have no direct knowledge of its properties. These ideas are pretty much in the realm of metaphysics as they concern things that we cannot measure. I don't have any answers, but the idea of multiverses of whatever flavour has always appealed to me since I learnt about them - it's the Copernican Principle on steroids.
 
So, initial expansion was faster than light, for a very brief period of time. That would mean, if we are observing the universe from a point along a path that had originated with and at the convergence of the "Big Bang", we could still possibly be outside the leading edge of light that traveled out of the Singularity that created us; and we might be able to look back along our route and see such an after image as it caught up to us because we are slowing down below light speed.
Light gets stretched as the universe expands - hence cosmic red shift. In the period t=10^-36 s to t=10^-32 s, what we can now observe of the universe expanded in size by a factor of 10^26 (10^78 in volume) from 8 x 10^-30 m across at t=10^-36s and was about 0.9mm (9x10^-4 m) across at t=10^-32 s - about the size of a grain of sand. However, this may have occurred during the electroweak epoch before any particles had mass. At about 10^-12 s, the Higgs field developed a vacuum expectation value and electroweak symmetry was spontaneously broken by tachyon condensation. W+ and W- bosons, Z0 bosons and fermions acquired mass and could no longer travel at c. Before this time, everything travelled at c. Photons did not exist as such as there was no electromagnetic field separate from the weak field. The equivalents of photons, W+ and W- bosons and Z0 bosons were bosons of weak hypercharge and weak hyperspin - B, W1, W1 and W3 - all massless.

Tachyon condensation - Wikipedia
Electroweak interaction - Wikipedia
I would assume, that image has already sailed by, long before conscious eyes could witness it, but what if not?
The farthest back we can observe currently is the cosmic microwave background (CMB), resulting from the recombination event when electrons combined with hydrogen and helium nuclei to form neutral atoms, allowing photons to travel more freely through space. That was about 380,000 years after the big bang (t=10^13s) when the observable universe was about 85 million light years across*. Gravitational wave and neutrino observations might push closer to t=0s.

* The observable universe is now about 93 billion light years across. Naively, one might expect that it could only be 27.6 billion light years across as the usual estimate of the universe's age is 13.8 billion years, but remember that the universe has been expanding all that time.

Gravitational wave background - Wikipedia
Cosmic neutrino background - Wikipedia
A Big Bang. A traveling and slowing point is created by said event, but it is initially pushed outward faster than light can travel. A viewer would thus be able to witness the event that they themselves had been in the center of, and watch their own creation from outside the event. It would appear as though the expansion happened far away, threw out matter, light, energy, and created another Earth, for example, and it was hurtling towards us, slowing down, as it got closer and closer until it was right beside us, moving at slightly greater velocity then we are, it would appear to finally crash gently into us and merge just at exactly the point at which its slowing velocity equaled our own. After that, it would vanish, seemingly becoming one with us.
See my first answer. We are effectively within the cooled-down big bang. Our universe might also extend well beyond what is visible; much having passed beyond the cosmological horizon.
At that point, only distant images of slower object that never catch up, would reach us. We would appear to be accelerating away from them instead of them decelerating as they caught up to us. The same would be true of objects ahead of us in our path of expansion. If we were, more or less, decelerating at a similar rate in spacial relationship to our distance from our origin, they would appear to be accelerating just as measurably as we were decelerating.
The current model is that all observers have essentially the same experience of the universe. In this isotropic model, such observers are called comoving observers because they move along with the Hubble flow - the motion of astronomical objects due to the expansion of the universe. The usual analogy is raisins embedded in a rising loaf of bread.

Hubble's law - Wikipedia
 
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The farthest back we can observe currently is the cosmic microwave background (CMB), resulting from the recombination event when electrons combined with hydrogen and helium nuclei to form neutral atoms, allowing photons to travel more freely through space.
Does this mean that when the video talked about the Big Bang expansion initially being faster than light, that light wasn't free to trave at C, but was much slower due to this pre-recombination event?

Light gets stretched as the universe expands - hence cosmic red shift. In the period t=10^-36 s to t=10^-32 s, what we can now observe of the universe expanded in size by a factor of 10^26 (10^78 in volume) from 8 x 10^-30 m across at t=10^-36s and was about 0.9mm (9x10^-4 m) across at t=10^-32 s - about the size of a grain of sand.
Your are referring to wave length being stretched? Or is this some analogous velocity of energy traveling away from the origin point? You are talking about a pre-photon state of light, energy without mass or matter?

-Will
 
Does this mean that when the video talked about the Big Bang expansion initially being faster than light, that light wasn't free to trave at C, but was much slower due to this pre-recombination event?
There were no photons before the electroweak transition. Everything travelled at c (not sure that can be proved - see below*). Nowadays, we understand that this is the limiting speed for all particles or indeed information that travel in the current era's vacuum state. The speed of light is a bit of an archaic term. Massless particles travel at c through space and 0 through time in their frame of reference. Everything else travels at c through space-time, so c through time in their frame of reference. There are suggestions that c must have been higher at very high energies as the wavelengths of the particle wave functions were smaller than the Planck length, but we're really not sure about what happens from a theoretical point of view under such extreme conditions. The mean free path length of photons during the radiation era before the recombination event and the transition to the matter era was limited by constant scattering off unbound protons and electrons. After that event, the mean free path became larger than the Hubble length (about 14.4 billion light years).

Recombination (cosmology) - Wikipedia

Recombination is a misleading term as the article explains.

Your are referring to wave length being stretched? Or is this some analogous velocity of energy traveling away from the origin point?
ESA - What is 'red shift'?

I'm really talking about the universe from the time after the electroweak transition.

*I'm not sure how we can know what c is for other vacuum states before this. It might be an unfounded assumption. Not sure.
You are talking about a pre-photon state of light, energy without mass or matter?
Actually, without rest mass; all objects in motion have effective mass due to their momentum, and energy has a mass equivalent through E = mc^2. I don't think B bosons and axions (a candidate for dark matter) are the same things. I believe their spins would be different (±1 and 0 respectively) and axions have a rest mass. Axions are predicted to be able to turn into two photons when they interact with strong electromagnetic fields (Primakoff effect) and the reverse transition is also theoretically possible.

Axion - Wikipedia

I'm really not very knowledgeable nowadays in high-energy physics and I'm not sure I ever was - not really my field.
 
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ENTROPY
Besides the reference to black holes, in this article:
https://www.sciencealert.com/astrophysicist-black-holes-actually-consume-entropy,
the statements about entropy have sparked a thought, Entropy may be subjective.

From the perspective of the dweller of a bedroom, neat and tidy, and organized with folded clothes in drawers, clear floors, organized shelves, and categorized closet and made bed, seems exactly perfect for finding clothes, slipping comfortably into bed and accessing recreational paraphernalia, but that is only from the point of view of a human occupant. What if a different mind entered a room that we judge to have zero entropy? Might another perspective perceive the room to have entropy because work has to be put into the room to reorganize it to meet the new mind's needs?

However, this is maybe an incomplete analogy for entropy. As I understand it, entropy is about energy. Entropy is a state of unusable or disorganized energy. An object at the top of a hill has potential energy. An object falling down the hill has kinetic energy. A black hole is the bottom of the hill. Theoretically, all the energy is still there, just unusable. However, a black hole also represents potential. It may create more and more entropy until that collected energy has no choice but to bounce back, returning the object to the top of the hill.

-Will
 
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Sounds like you are describing a white hole. A black hole removes matter and energy from our universe; a white hole returns it.
 
Would that white hole be the same as the singularity that created the Universe? I am unfamiliar with the term.

If a black hole removes energy and mater, and a white hole adds energy and mater, the questions then would be, are they inversely analogous in terms of amounts of energy and mater? Are they spatially the same and time consecutive in that, one follows the other in the same location? Can a black hole turn into a white hole? Maybe they are stages in mater/energy interactions, but not spatially identical.

Could mater and energy go in at one location and come out at another? In that case, it sounds like a wormhole. One end, the input end, would look like a black hole, given a strong enough current, and the other end would look like a white hole where nothing could enter against the current.

-Will
 
Just found this!
Genuinely Fascinating!
It took some time to read it all - not gonna begin to pretend I have the Science to understand it all, but I filled in enough, from other sources, to get some of the gist…

Thank you from this Old Brain still learning New Things.



Wow!
And other sources that distilled some of the research jargon down?
Double Wow!

It's not the first such candidate, of course. Previous candidates have been eliminated for various reasons. Although it was once thought that cosmic strings were responsible for much of the formation of galactic superclusters in the universe, their contribution is now estimated at around 10%. The hypothesis that they are related to the tiny strings of string theory has come back into vogue following theoretical work on M-theory, D-branes and AdS/CFT correspondence. I have no doubt that branchial theory also allows them as it encompasses anything that is computable.

The Nexus of Star Trek Generations was possibly intended to be a cosmic string, although it was a somewhat magical, dramatically action friendly one.

Love that I have a new way to look at The Nexus!

The Bekenstein bound limits the amount of information that can be stored within a spherical volume to the entropy of a black hole with the same surface area. It places an upper limit on the thermodynamic entropy or Shannon entropy for a finite region of space that contains a finite amount of energy. (It also implies that an idealised, non-finite Turing machine is not realisable as a finite device.)

The maximal number of bits that are required to describe any possible quantum state of a finite volume containing finite energy is proportional to the number of Planck areas (2.6 x 10^-70 m²) that are required to cover the surface that encloses the volume.

The Bekenstein bound for the average human brain is about 2.16 × 10^68 bits, assuming a radius of 6.7 x 10^-2 m. (Here, brains are estimated as spheres - just like cows.) This represents the maximal information that is required to simulate this brain down to the quantum level, including all its possible states. A quantum computer with that many qubits could simulate any state of human consciousness - including the entire life experience of any human that has ever lived or that could ever exist. It also represents a fundamental limit on human cognition.

The radius of the observable universe is about 46 billion (4.6 x 10^10) light years. One light year is 9.46 x 10^15 m, so the radius is 4.35 x 10^26 m. The Bekenstein bound is proportional to the area of the contained region, so the Bekenstein bound for the universe is (4.35 x 10^26/6.7 x 10^-2)² x 2.16 x 10^68 = (6.5 x 10^27)² x 2.16 x 10^68 = 9.13 x 10^123 bits or 10^23 googol bits.*

If some metaphysical entity wanted to simulate all possible conscious entities whose centres of cognition have a volume less than or equal to that of a human brain, it's much, much easy to achieve that than it is to simulate an entire universe. It's not impossible that I or you are such a simulated entity - the postmodern version of the brain in the jar - except that we would all share the one jar.

* The important part is that both bounds are extremely large, yet finite. The number of possible states is 2 raised to the number of bits as the power, which is still finite.

Still thinking (!) - or maybe we ALL are thinking in that jar? - about that last bit about our brains!!!

My player just ran out of quarters…

Bummer!
 
Would that white hole be the same as the singularity that created the Universe? I am unfamiliar with the term.

If a black hole removes energy and mater, and a white hole adds energy and mater, the questions then would be, are they inversely analogous in terms of amounts of energy and mater? Are they spatially the same and time consecutive in that, one follows the other in the same location? Can a black hole turn into a white hole? Maybe they are stages in mater/energy interactions, but not spatially identical.

Could mater and energy go in at one location and come out at another? In that case, it sounds like a wormhole. One end, the input end, would look like a black hole, given a strong enough current, and the other end would look like a white hole where nothing could enter against the current.

-Will

It is just a science fiction theory.
Since energy can neither be created nor destroyed (according to the Law if Conservation) then the matter/energy of the universe must remain constant. So therefore if energy/matter is taken out of the universe it must be returned.

What I don’t understand is if nothing can escape a black hole, not even light, then how does Hawking radiation escape???
(scratches head)
 
It is just a science fiction theory.
Since energy can neither be created nor destroyed (according to the Law if Conservation) then the matter/energy of the universe must remain constant. So therefore if energy/matter is taken out of the universe it must be returned.

What I don’t understand is if nothing can escape a black hole, not even light, then how does Hawking radiation escape???
(scratches head)
The popular science explanation of Hawking radiation is completely incorrect - it was even propagated by Hawking himself for some reason about which we can now only speculate. I refer you to this article for a better explanation:

How do black holes evaporate from Hawking radiation? - Big Think
 
If virtual particles appear and disappear by annihilating each other couldn’t you infer that they may have a short half- life?
Couldn’t another pair come into existence and annihilate both positive particles?
Just a thought.
 
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