The Most Disliked Episode of DIS, Season 2: 2021 Edition...

[Farscape One]

This is a twist on a game that is played here, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your most favorite or the one you deem the 'best.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win. Pretty simple. Enjoy!

Hall of Champions (or Failures?)
2021 - "The Red Angel"


Season Two

Brother
New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Through the Valley of Shadows
Such Sweet Sorrow I
Such Sweet Sorrow II

 

[Farscape One]

Season 2... a major improvement over season 1. While there are some overall story issues, adding Anson Mount as Captain Pike to the cast was a brilliant move. Him, Rebecca Romijn, and Ethan Peck were excellent additions, and because of them, I cannot tell you how excited I am for the upcoming STRANGE NEW WORLDS... more so than DIS season 4 or PICARD season 2.

So it will be no surprise that my first vote for this season is "Through the Valley of Shadows". Pike truly shines here, knowing what his fate will be and accepting it for a greater good. The man is a hero.



Brother
New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
If Memory Serves
Project Daedalus
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I
Such Sweet Sorrow II

 

[Seven of Five]

I can't wait for Strange New Worlds either.

I'll go with If Memory Serves first, a bonafide DIS classic. Seeing the Talosians and Vina again was a real treat. and the whole episode is so much fun.

Brother
New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
Project Daedalus
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I
Such Sweet Sorrow II

 

[Noname Given]

I can't wait for Strange New Worlds either.

I'll go with If Memory Serves first, a bonafide DIS classic. Seeing the Talosians and Vina again was a real treat. and the whole episode is so much fun.

^^^
Damn, beat me to it. For me that was the best episode of season 2.

The above said, I'm going to remove: Such Sweet Sorrow II

I loved the redesign of the classic TOS era Bridge, as well as seeing the new version of the 1701 firing phasers and Photon torpedoes.

Brother
New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
Project Daedalus
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Vale]

^^^
I loved the redesign of the classic TOS era Bridge, as well as seeing the new version of the 1701 firing phasers and Photon torpedoes.

This is one thing I believe Discovery did very well with the original Enterprise – updating the design to modern standards and being respectful of what came before without slavishly adhering to the established look of the 1960s. The bridge in particular, with its red highlights and chair design and general layout, was spectacular. Compare what the Enterprise here looks like with the Abramsverse version and it's just night and day.

I'll save "Brother", partly because it's free of the boring Sphere and mycelial network stuff from later in the season, and partly because of the immediate splash Anson Mount makes as Pike, plus the introduction of Jett Reno. This episode promised that season two was going to be a definite improvement on season one, and while that was ultimately not the case, it still remains a highlight of the season.

New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
The Sound of Thunder
Light and Shadows
Project Daedalus
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Seven of Five]

The Sound of Thunder is next now. Saru has a brilliant second season, and this episode sees him help his species discover buried mysteries about his race. Seeing Kaminar was great as well, as was Saru's sister.

New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
Light and Shadows
Project Daedalus
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Vale]

Saru has a brilliant second season...

Yes. This is one of the things that makes Discovery quite frustrating – Saru has had excellent character development, from being an officious asshat at the beginning of season one to becoming a sympathetic character by the end of season two to believably growing into the captain's role in season three. But that same care of development doesn't get shared with other characters, even important ones.

 

[Farscape One]

Saving "Project Daedalus".

It was great to get to know Airiam.


New Eden
Point of Light
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
Light and Shadows
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Sakonna]

Probably Disco's weakest season for me, despite such high points as "If Memory Serves", Pike, etc. The back half so completely fumbles the story, it really sours the whole batch for me.

I enjoy "Point Of Light." Season 1 left the Klingon's in just a complete narrative mess, this installment does admirable work of reconciling that into something that makes sense and can run for a moment. Mary Chieffo was so fabulous as L'Rell, I hope she recurs on SNW.

New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
Light and Shadows
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Seven of Five]

An Obol for Charon is another good one for me. Seeing Saru's transformation was a good change to the character that they followed up on in later episodes.

New Eden
An Obol for Charon
Saints of Imperfection
Light and Shadows
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Farscape One]

My final vote for the season is "New Eden". It was good to get some background on Owosekun.

I can't really vote for the rest because they either didn't make a lick of sense or they just blurred too much together for me to differentiate.

(If we are in a bind for a vote at the end, I can do a final one.)


Saints of Imperfection
Light and Shadows
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Sakonna]

"Saints Of Imperfection", for correcting one of Disco's biggest story mistakes by resurrecting Culber.

Wow, this is a dreadful foursome remaining. Each one I find unwatchable. I wonder if this year should join my "Worst Trek Ever" list. Outside of Enterprise seasons 1 & 2, there is no other Trek season yet produced where I absolutely could not sit through a quarter of the episodes in it.

Light and Shadows
The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Seven of Five]

Light and Shadows isn't a great episode, yet the interactions between Sarek and Amanda regarding Spock make the episode more memorable than the rest.

The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity
Such Sweet Sorrow I

 

[Vale]

Suddenly got very quiet in here...

I'll save "Such Sweet Sorrow I", because it's got the Enterprise in it, and I loathed the other two.

The Red Angel
Perpetual Infinity

 

[Quinton]

Hmm. I'll save "Perpetual Infinity," eliminating "The Red Angel" and ending the round.

They kind of blur together, if I'm being honest, but there are simply more scenes in PI that I enjoy without reservation.

 

[Farscape One]

And season 2 ends with "The Red Angel" being the winner.

Honestly, I am with you Quinton... I truly can't tell them apart by memory. I would have to go to Memory Alpha for those episodes, and that's a bad sign for me.

Thank you all for voting. Season 3 will be up soon.

 

[Seven of Five]

I think the Red Angel arc has such a botched end, and It's a real shame because they were firing on all cylinders in the first two-thirds of the season.

I guess Such Sweet Sorrow II ended the season with a bang, even if it didn't make sense at times.

 

[Sakonna]

God, I wish I could get on board with SSW II. I've tried many times, but it just puts me in a rage! Truly some of the worst plotting I've ever seen. I can't invest in any of the explosive drama because there's no two consecutive story beats that hold together for me. The only way to escape this immortal AI is to go to the future, though it can't cover distance and we're on a ship that could just go hide at the far end of the galaxy for as long as we need to figure it out, and the AI has actually gotten on the ship while we're on our way to future but that's no reason to stop, and and and... HATE.

I also think it might feature Trek's single worst space battle.

It really is hard to pick between "Red Angel" and "Perpetual Infinity" which might be worse. Franchise lows. I suppose I ever so slightly prefer "Red Angel", but only because I'm particularly turned off by all that purple dialogue about what a harsh mistress Time is in PI.

What a messy season!

 

[Noname Given]

And season 2 ends with "The Red Angel" being the winner.

Honestly, I am with you Quinton... I truly can't tell them apart by memory. I would have to go to Memory Alpha for those episodes, and that's a bad sign for me.

Thank you all for voting. Season 3 will be up soon.

IDK, but in a season designed to tell one story over 14 episodes, the fact that you can't tell some episodes apart would mean that they successfully did their job of making one whole story from start to finish.

In the end you may not like that story, or some parts of it, but that doesn't mean they didn't execute what they plan to do to effectively.

 

[nic3636]

God, I wish I could get on board with SSW II. I've tried many times, but it just puts me in a rage! Truly some of the worst plotting I've ever seen. I can't invest in any of the explosive drama because there's no two consecutive story beats that hold together for me. The only way to escape this immortal AI is to go to the future, though it can't cover distance and we're on a ship that could just go hide at the far end of the galaxy for as long as we need to figure it out, and the AI has actually gotten on the ship while we're on our way to future but that's no reason to stop, and and and... HATE.

I also think it might feature Trek's single worst space battle.

It really is hard to pick between "Red Angel" and "Perpetual Infinity" which might be worse. Franchise lows. I suppose I ever so slightly prefer "Red Angel", but only because I'm particularly turned off by all that purple dialogue about what a harsh mistress Time is in PI.

What a messy season!

Yeah it made no sense at all. My understanding is that if any AI (not just control) consumes the sphere data it will become unstoppable, so going into the future makes no sense because software can live forever and just wait and also there will be just as many AIs in the future (if not more) as there are in the present.