The Menagerie
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I suspect that "The Cage" would still be canon. It is filmed Trek, and there is no reason to believe that an episode that took place before WNMHGB would not fit into the overall storyline.
As for myself, I love "The Menagerie" so I am glad they worked it in. I think that "The Cage" is a great piece of stand-alone Scifi, and "The Menagerie" is first rate Star Trek.
As for myself, I love "The Menagerie" so I am glad they worked it in. I think that "The Cage" is a great piece of stand-alone Scifi, and "The Menagerie" is first rate Star Trek.
"The Cage" became canonical the moment the special, "The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next" aired during the hiatus between Seasons One and Two of TNG.
it wasn't "colorized" - they actually found the original color copy of "the Cage"
I actually miss the original version in B&W - Malachi Throne is really different as the voice of the Keeper. Vic Perrin dubbed it in for "The Menagerie" but according to Malachi it wasn't Vic.
I actually miss the original version in B&W - Malachi Throne is really different as the voice of the Keeper. Vic Perrin dubbed it in for "The Menagerie" but according to Malachi it wasn't Vic.
"The Cage" was first released on sell-thru home video. After all those decades of Roddenberry showing the surviving all b/w workprint at ST conventions, someone thought to do a combination edit, restoring all colour scenes used in "The Menagerie" while morphing back and forth to the b/w footage where only that version remained.
In the huge publicity for the video release, the guy who'd once edited "The Menagerie" for Desilu realized he still had the snipped-out colour bits on reels in his basement. The all-colour "The Cage" was restored - and premiered on TV within "The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next" special, hosted by Patrick Stewart, during the hiatus between TNG Seasons One and Two, partly filling the gap enforced by the big writers' strike.
The all-colour "The Cage" was also released to home video, and also got added into TOS syndication packages at that time.
Both the b&w/colour compile and the all-colour version are on the Season Three TOS DVD boxed set.
To watch "The Cage" as if it were the old b/w workprint, simply turn down the colour selector on your TV receiver. The only major change will be the two voices alternating for the Talosian Magistrate. (There's also a minor editing glitch in the all-colour version, if I recall. A scene cut short?)
Therin of Andor said:
"The Cage" became canonical the moment the special, "The Star Trek Saga: From One Generation to the Next" aired during the hiatus between Seasons One and Two of TNG.
So you're saying that Vina had a pretend pike until the real one showed up 13 years later?
Two different realities. In one, Vina got her imaginary Pike immediately. In the other, she had to wait 13 years.
In the first one, the Menagerie never happened. Who knows? Pike may even have not been injured in the accident. We don't know anything more about that reality beyond The Cage.
In the first one, the Menagerie never happened. Who knows? Pike may even have not been injured in the accident. We don't know anything more about that reality beyond The Cage.
Why not? Vina could create her own fantasies at will. Then her fantasy came true.
It could well be that the Talosians were able to (more or less) seamlessly "splice" the invalid Pike's thoughts directly into Vina's fantasy of Pike...though she'd probably eventually realize the difference since her version of Pike wouldn't have REALLY been actively contributing to the illusion. 
IIRC, Pike's line to Vina, during the picnic scene, something like, "You were like a wild little animal," is snipped from the all-color DVD version.
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