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Owain Taggart said:
You know, I certainly wasn't intending for it to sound divisive, and I wasn't trying to imply anything. I was just hoping to strike a more hopeful tone overall, ie in the sense of wishing humanity would be better than that. But then we see things like what the gun company are doing that run contrary that constantly dispel that illusion. Maybe I should have worded it differently. I'm not always the greatest at expressing things. So, I'm sorry if I struck a nerve.
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There often tends to be a certain smug anti-American attitude that permeates certain parts of our society, that sometimes even shows up in some of our media. I believe you when you say that's not what you were saying, and I don't recall seeing that kind of thing from you before, either. But that's what the statement evoked in my mind, and that's what I reacted to. So not directed at you or your post personally, but just my thoughts around this societal attitude in general: I believe we should be able to lift ourselves up without putting down others... and I also believe that we have no cause whatsoever for smugness, whether you want to look at recent history, or back farther.

I could go further with this subject, but maybe it's best to just leave it there. But I do apologize for any offense, and for the curtness of my other post.

Owain Taggart said:
wishing humanity would be better than that.
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I am not religious, but I will give you an "amen" to this.
 
Avro Arrow said:
I believe we should be able to lift ourselves up without putting down others.
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Agreed. I actually feel we can learn a bit from each culture in the world. This is why I find culture so interesting. It really should be a win/win all around. Which is why learning about what these gun companies are doing by taking advantage of a rather horrific event, it starts to hit rather close to home, you know? Made me do a double-take. Up until now, I don't think I've ever seen the gun companies try that tactic here. I just hope it's not something that sticks.

Avro Arrow said:
I am not religious, but I will give you an "amen" to this.
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Cheers! Have one on me! :beer:
 
LaxScrutiny said:
TBH I haven't looked at the actual proposed firearms regulations, just the outraged headlines from the Sun that come up on my news feed. Can't see the reasoning for restricting bolt-action rifles but I'm sure that's an anomaly. As for the rest of it, I doubt that there is much in Federal law that will actually hurt Alberta or be unconstitutional.
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more amendments were made following the 2nd reading and they are will hit farmers and hunters (I have no problems if they eat what they kill, I have a problem with those who get their rocks off shooting animals).

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-c21-sporting-guns-1.6673730

I don't know if there was sanction from the party for the amendments but the relevant minister is ducking the question.
 
LaxScrutiny said:
I've been reading about it now and even the NDP is having problems with it. I get the restriction of .50, that's a serious military firearm that can cause a lot of damage.

What the Liberals seem to be targeting... err, shooting for... err, trying to achieve is limiting guns to 3 round fixed magazines and bolt/lever/pump action (ie not self-loading.) I can see both sides here but it's too vague and too large a step out of the blue.

I'm also puzzled about the restrictions on mortars. Could actually own one up till now?
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the agreement with the ndp is for support and confidence so maybe they'll show some spine and vote down some of these amendments (if not our last best hope is the senate).
 
Gah, this is maddening. As if those living in Northern Ontario weren't already having trouble securing funding for infrastructure projects, ie road widenings, 4-lanings, but it was found out via the auditor general that 158M of already secured funding was being diverted to lower-priority projects in Southern Ontario. We fight hard for our voices to be heard, for our needs to be met, and even when funding is secured, it is diverted. Yeah, thanks a lot Ford. Thanks for thinking of us.

https://www.sudbury.com/around-the-...projects-to-southern-ontario-ag-finds-6199451

I can attest that the stretch between Longlac and Nipigon is scary. I was coming back home from a trip in 2017 during the summer and we'd decided to take that route back home. It was a thick foggy day and you couldn't see more than a couple of feet in front of you. We were on edge the entire time, and to make it worse, there were fewer amenities along the roads, less hotels. They were also working on the Nipigon bridge then, which had had a collapse, and there weren't many vacancies available anywhere due to the construction workers using them all up. It's really not a place you want to be out when the weather is bad.
 
Ford thinks of such places as he thinks of Toronto and Ottawa...as places to be seen and never heard from.

And then, I see this from Alberta in today's news, and I think of provincial governments - as we presently know them - as being a plague upon Canadians and Canadian-adjacent peoples.
 
DEWLine said:
Ford thinks of such places as he thinks of Toronto and Ottawa...as places to be seen and never heard from.

And then, I see this from Alberta in today's news, and I think of provincial governments - as we presently know them - as being a plague upon Canadians and Canadian-adjacent peoples.
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For all the howls of protest about the strong mayor powers going to tory, Toronto voters knew the powers were coming and the chance to vote him out and didn't - plus those same powers would also be there if the mayor was liberal leaning.

the ucp in alberta is just plain fascist.
 
After our local Mayoral election, a new Chief Financial Officer was hired. They're from Alberta, and she was told that if she were hired, she'd have to relocate. Well, she got the job, but then announced that she wouldn't relocate, but instead work remotely from home. This caused quite a bit of controversy, and today it's been announced they've revoked her contract. I can understand that maybe there are personal and family reasons for not making the move, but it's a bit disingenuous towards the city and its inhabitants if they can't be bothered to be part of the community they're working for. There's something to be said about making financial decisions when you don't have a personal perspective from living in that city.
 
Owain Taggart said:
After our local Mayoral election, a new Chief Financial Officer was hired. They're from Alberta, and she was told that if she were hired, she'd have to relocate. Well, she got the job, but then announced that she wouldn't relocate, but instead work remotely from home. This caused quite a bit of controversy, and today it's been announced they've revoked her contract. I can understand that maybe there are personal and family reasons for not making the move, but it's a bit disingenuous towards the city and its inhabitants if they can't be bothered to be part of the community they're working for. There's something to be said about making financial decisions when you don't have a personal perspective from living in that city.
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Where as a former Ontario Medical Officer of Health did move when she took up a high level job in Alberta but she's just resigned from it ( though given the way the UCP is going my suspicion is she jumped before being pushed).
 
Yeah, that is good news. It's been a long time coming. It's been out of commission for far too long. The last train ran in 2012. Ever since then, a group has been fighting to get it going again. With Greyhound getting out of Canada, Northern Ontario has had dwindling options in more remote communities.
 
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Interestingly, both the Northlander and the lines in GTA, ie the GO trains, are run by sister crown corporations, so you get that tug of war of infrastructure funding.
 
Owain Taggart said:
Interestingly, both the Northlander and the lines in GTA, ie the GO trains, are run by sister crown corporations, so you get that tug of war of infrastructure funding.
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there's a long history of fuckwittery when it comes to railway infrasctructure so two crown corporations fighting over funding wouldn't be anything new.
 
Marc said:
there's a long history of fuckwittery when it comes to railway infrasctructure so two crown corporations fighting over funding wouldn't be anything new.
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Yeah, I'm not surprised. Although because of Ontario's size, it makes for an interesting situation where the two corporations are serving two entirely different geographic areas, with a subset of people that would never have to take either one.

So, I'm sorry, but that particular line is probably having trouble because of the recent funding commitment to the Northlander.
 
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