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The Male Skirts from Season 1

They do? I swear they were all like pencil skirts on that show? Having never worn one I've assumed that all tight mini skirts restrict leg movement based on how tightly they fit?

Melakon, I'm a hick from Oregon. Whereabouts in the Midwest? Wisconsin or Michigan?

We've got a lot of Scots-Irish out here in Oregon, and while the kilt isn't common, it wouldn't get too many funny stares.
I had to look up pencil skirt, as I am fashion deficient, but I think only the dress version seen in Court Martial would qualify as one. The duty version worn by Uhura and others are more like skorts. (Which I had to ask my wife the name for)
 
Culottes were briefly popular for women in the 70s, so Roddenberry might have been brainstorming on that idea for men.
Those were nothing like culottes.

I never thought men wearing skants was a big deal. Men have worn skirts or skirt like clothes since forever and they still do it today in large parts of the world, it's not exactly visionary to put a man in a skirt or skant.
Tunics. Those are what men have worn for a very long time... at least until the Renaissance. Even the Plantagenet males wore tunics, albeit with hose underneath instead of bare legs. A man's social class could be inferred in part by the length of his tunic. Generally, the longer it was, the higher his socioeconomic class.

Yes, but a kilt has a long history of tradition. I've never seen a man wearing a kilt or a skirt in public in the States, unless it's in parades or other ceremonies. Except for once in the last 8 years or so, when a crossdresser or transvestite apparently was denied use of the restroom at a fast food restaurant. I thought it was a woman from a distance, but he was angrily muttering about something aloud while in a parking lot. Too bad he didn't know there was an office building within view with unlocked restrooms, but maybe he just wanted to make a scene.
There are men in the SCA who wear kilts. Some men just prefer to wear them. It's not a big deal, except to people who snigger and point because they think "that man's wearing a dress!".

It's pretty telling when they didn't even put Wesley in one.
Ah, but he wasn't actually crew at the time. ;)
 
I'm also on the west coast. There is a utilikilt store near my workplace, and I have occasionally seen guys wearing them in real life. One was giving out free hugs.

There was also a brief trend for a few business like movers and cleaners to outfit all of the men in kilts. I don't think that lasted very long, though.

Kor
 
Melakon, I'm a hick from Oregon. Whereabouts in the Midwest? Wisconsin or Michigan?
Born in Illinois, raised in Missouri. Didn't come out west until I was 39.
It's pretty telling when they didn't even put Wesley in one.
Ah, but he wasn't actually crew at the time. ;)
No, but if they're common enough for Starfleet, there should be civilian versions.
Somebody should ask Wil Wheaton about that, next time they attend a convention Q&A where he's a guest (I assume he does convention appearances?).
 
I wouldn't want to wear them. I won't even wear shorts in public, because I went all knobby kneed immediately when hitting puberty. I was photogenic until that happened, then I turned into Quasimodo.
 
I don't think skirts have a place on a professional ship. Nobody needs to show that much skin, and they restrict movement. Pants are the most practical garments, as they provide maneuverability and warmth.

That's the single best argument for why the skants were a bit idea.

And they didn't even look good, just look at Troi in the pilot she looks like a grown woman dressed up as a little girl.
 
Marina Siritis rocked the skant uniform, I have to say. But on Men, it really did look stupid. Whilst I love TNG, I did not love the uniforms. They were just too cheap-looking, too black and the angled blocks of colour seemed imperfect somehow. Like the uniforms were made by a computer that needed adjustment. I would've much prefered the mixed-bag approach STAR TREK: The Motion Picture took towards STARFLEET uniforms. But the original uniforms, without the collar did look better of the two TNG used; I don't know why they changed that.
 
Except Yar and Troi, they both looked fantastic.

:)

Er... When did Yar wear a skant uniform?
Last shot of "Encounter at Farpoint."

USS_Enterprise-D_Crew,_Farpoint_Mission.jpg
 
I really thought that Troi looked terrible in everything but the regular uniform. I don't thing that her wearing a civilian-looking uni would be out of place for a medical professional whose job is to put people at ease, but she looked very undignified in some episodes. That super-tight garment was exploiting her.
 
For me its the combination of the skant uniform and the glittery, golden Alice band Troi wears in the pilot. She looks like she raided the wardrobe of Barbie's teenage sister and totally wants to go to the mall.
The skants even look sorta unfinished, like they were just arbitarily cut off at a (far to high) hemline, which brings me to the problem, they don't have a hem at the skirt, which is why they look unfinished.
 
Fashion is such a subjective thing. People get upset about this and yet walk outside today and you'll see an alarming amount of tats and piercings on anyone under 40. I don't know what would be worse, seeing a guy at starbucks serve me in a kilt or a guy with two full sleeves of tats, a lip ring, and big honking earrings.
 
^ One time at a Burger King in my area, the cashier had a bunch of Nazi tattoos all over his arms. I was surprised that corporate policy didn't make him wear long sleeves.

Kor
 
Fashion is such a subjective thing. People get upset about this and yet walk outside today and you'll see an alarming amount of tats and piercings on anyone under 40. I don't know what would be worse, seeing a guy at starbucks serve me in a kilt or a guy with two full sleeves of tats, a lip ring, and big honking earrings.
I'm just curious why tats and piercings alarm you and how someone with them or someone wearing a kilt would effect your service at Starbucks?
 
^ Because society is used to those things being common among the criminal element, so a large amount implies violent/sadistic/sociopathic tendencies (whether or not there is an actual correlation).

And I must say that I was definitely.... concerned at being served at Burger King by a guy with Nazi tattoos all over his arms. :wtf:

Kor
 
For me its the combination of the skant uniform and the glittery, golden Alice band Troi wears in the pilot. She looks like she raided the wardrobe of Barbie's teenage sister and totally wants to go to the mall.
The skants even look sorta unfinished, like they were just arbitarily cut off at a (far to high) hemline, which brings me to the problem, they don't have a hem at the skirt, which is why they look unfinished.
I recall a story....I believe the episode was "Assignment: Earth", and the actress was Teri Garr..... Roddenberry kept pushing, pushing to have her skirt shortened, and shorter still. :rolleyes:
 
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