The Male Skirts from Season 1

[robau]

I really thought that Troi looked terrible in everything but the regular uniform. I don't thing that her wearing a civilian-looking uni would be out of place for a medical professional whose job is to put people at ease, but she looked very undignified in some episodes. That super-tight garment was exploiting her.

Agreed.

 

[Timewalker]

Fashion is such a subjective thing. People get upset about this and yet walk outside today and you'll see an alarming amount of tats and piercings on anyone under 40. I don't know what would be worse, seeing a guy at starbucks serve me in a kilt or a guy with two full sleeves of tats, a lip ring, and big honking earrings.

There's nothing wrong with guys wearing kilts.

 

[Tim Walker]

I really thought that Troi looked terrible in everything but the regular uniform. I don't thing that her wearing a civilian-looking uni would be out of place for a medical professional whose job is to put people at ease, but she looked very undignified in some episodes. That super-tight garment was exploiting her.

Generally, it was women who wore the regular uniform who had any dignity. Janeway. Dr. Crusher. And in First Contact, Troi.

I'm a heterosexual male, but I found it jarring when the women were turned into sex objects when they were supposed to be on duty.

 

[CaptainStoner]

But I also noticed it disappeared pretty quickly

The TNG version of the miniskirt for women seem to disappear rather quickly too, although not as fast as the men's.

Sad on both counts, but way ahead of its time with the skant.

 

[JTShanks]

Was it really a Roddenberry idea? It always struck me that Roddenberry's progressive future often failed to include women and gays.

It was a nice idea to play with gender norms but there were probably better ways to do it (ways that didn't look quite as laughable to a late 80's audience)

I think Roddenberry wanted to do that but the studio would not let him make any LGBT characters in those days. Remember this was still the 60's and 80's when he was making new Trek shows.

 

[Orphalesion]

Well apparently Troi wore the skirt (and later the grey 1st season onesie) because the producers thought Marina Sirtis was "too chubby" for the regular starfleet uniform:

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=26601

and wanted to divert attention from her stomach to her shapely legs. Wonder if the skant was created just for that reason? Perhaps they just put men into it as well to "justify" it as non-sexual.

I always thought Marina Sirtis got a bit uncomfortably skinny in seasons 5 and 6 wonder if it was the pressure that was put on her to lose weight.

 

[RAMA]

I always imgine it akin to other future visions from the past that had toga style clothing, ie:

 

[Makarov]

I think it looked bad and was also impractical to have anybody wearing skirts, men or women.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Oh, man, just imagine being behind that Engineering ensign in a Jeffries' Tube.

 

[WillsBabe]

Oh, man, just imagine being behind that Engineering ensign in a Jeffries' Tube.

I often wonder if that's why they put Uhura in an overall in the TOS ep where she's under the console fixing the wiring. (Sorry, TOS related!)

 

[Mojochi]

All gender considerations aside, they were ugly and impractical as shit, for everyone unfortunate enough to have to wear one. Who would wear shit like that to perform work functions, in any decade or any century?

 

[Kor]

^ Ancient Egyptians.

These things come and go through the centuries.

Kor

 

[Nerys Myk]

Oh, man, just imagine being behind that Engineering ensign in a Jeffries' Tube.

I often wonder if that's why they put Uhura in an overall in the TOS ep where she's under the console fixing the wiring. (Sorry, TOS related!)

I don't see why. Her skirt was usually so short we saw the shorts underneath half the time anyway

 

[RandyS]

It's pretty telling when they didn't even put Wesley in one.

There's a mental image I didn't need......

 

[T'Girl]

Who would wear shit like that to perform work functions, in any decade or any century?

Don't see what the problem would have been, most of the time they were doing "office work." Standing, walking sitting, talking, on the computer, using a pad.

If there's a female crawling through the jeffires tube ahead of you, whether she in a mini or a onesie, you can still look at her hips and butt.