The Least Disliked Visit To Earth's Past

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  1. Sakonna

    Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Next up in these themed elimination games: the Least Disliked Visit To (or Story Set In) Earth's Past!

    THE RULES. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. Below is a list of episodes from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT where our characters themselves travel to Earth's past (or we are otherwise shown events from Earth's past, excluding holodeck recreations). Eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed.

    Finally, please leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.


    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode just because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.

    And finally, much thanks to @Farscape One for vetting the list with me!
    Enjoy! :beer:

    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 1: “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 1: “Encounter At Farpoint”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 6: “Time’s Arrow, Part 2”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 5: “11:59”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: “Carbon Creek”
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
    ENT, Season 3: “Carpenter Street”
    ENT, Season 4: “Storm Front, Part 1”
    ENT, Season 4: “Storm Front, Part 2”
     
  2. Discofan

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    So many to choose from!!

    VOY, Season 5: “11:59” gets the prize. The story is boring as hell. Talk about a tempest in a teapot! Good stories are either humorous or tragic, this one is neither!!!

    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 1: “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 1: “Encounter At Farpoint”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 6: “Time’s Arrow, Part 2”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: “Carbon Creek”
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
    ENT, Season 3: “Carpenter Street”
    ENT, Season 4: “Storm Front, Part 1”
    ENT, Season 4: “Storm Front, Part 2”
     
  3. Takeru

    Takeru Space Police Premium Member

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    Storm Front Part 1, alien nazis helping germany win WW2 is a trashy direct to video plot that should have never made it into an episode.


    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 1: “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 1: “Encounter At Farpoint”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 6: “Time’s Arrow, Part 2”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: “Carbon Creek”
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
    ENT, Season 3: “Carpenter Street”
    ENT, Season 4: “Storm Front, Part 2”
     
  4. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

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    "Encounter at Farpoint" is not really about visiting Earth's past. That's not the thrust of the episode. Bye.

    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 1: “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 6: “Time’s Arrow, Part 2”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: “Carbon Creek”
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
    ENT, Season 3: “Carpenter Street”
    ENT, Season 4: “Storm Front, Part 2”
     
  5. Discofan

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    ENT, Season 2: “Carbon Creek”: Bites coal dust. The story makes no sense.

    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 1: “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 6: “Time’s Arrow, Part 2”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
    ENT, Season 3: “Carpenter Street”
    ENT, Season 4: “Storm Front, Part 2”
     
  6. Takeru

    Takeru Space Police Premium Member

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    Storm Fromt Part 2, same reason as part 1.


    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 1: “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 6: “Time’s Arrow, Part 2”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
    ENT, Season 3: “Carpenter Street”
     
  7. sekundant

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    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 1: “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
    ENT, Season 3: “Carpenter Street”

    TNG, Season 6: “Time’s Arrow, Part 2” is full of story holes. I never liked Devidians, so one dimensional villains.
     
  8. Farscape One

    Farscape One Commodore Commodore

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    TOS, Season 1: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 5: “Time’s Arrow, Part 1”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"


    CARPENTER STREET goes. Not a good episode.
     
  9. Greg Cox

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    What the heck, let's clear "Time's Arrow, Part One" from the board. It's cute to see Mark Twain and Jack London pop up on STAR TREK, but there are so many much better trips to Earth's past above it.

    TOS, Season 1: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight"
     
  10. Discofan

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    ENT, Season 2: "First Flight" is just a big cliché. Plus the guy (Archer's friend) first says that the engines were no good but then he puts his career on the line to prove that they work. I mean make up your damn mind!!

    TOS, Season 1: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS, Season 2: “Assignment: Earth”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
     
  11. Takeru

    Takeru Space Police Premium Member

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    Assignment: Earth, a failed backdoor pilot that I never cared for.


    TOS, Season 1: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG, Season 7: “All Good Things”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
     
  12. Greg Cox

    Greg Cox Admiral Premium Member

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    Ooh, things are getting painful. Nothing but first-rate episodes left.

    But let's clear out "All Good Things," which, like "Farpoint," is not really about visiting Earth's past in the same way the other remaining eps are.

    TOS, Season 1: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
     
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  13. Discofan

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    TOS, Season 1: "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" because I don't like it as much as I like the others.



    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 6: "One Small Step"
     
  14. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Removing One Small Step, because it's the only one left I don't think is one of the better episodes.

    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    DS9, Season 6: “Far Beyond The Stars”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
     
  15. Takeru

    Takeru Space Police Premium Member

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    Far Beyond The Stars, a dream (or vision) episode so neither an actual visit to earth nor the past happened. All the others actually go to the past.


    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 2”
     
  16. Farscape One

    Farscape One Commodore Commodore

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    "FUTURE'S END, PART II" ends with this post. The subplot with the gun guys dragged it down.


    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    DS9, Season 4: “Little Green Men”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1”
     
  17. Sakonna

    Sakonna Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    "Little Green Men" has always frustrated me, more fun in theory than in execution.

    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    VOY, Season 3: “Future’s End, Part 1"
     
  18. serdogthehound

    serdogthehound Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Very hard choice, but I will go with Future's End part 1 because it just not quite as strong as the others also I dislike braxton
    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 1”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2”
    Edit to add: Should the The Magkicks of Megas-tu been on the list ? We are shown the Magus visit and time on Earth and its not the HolodecK?
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2019
  19. Seven of Five

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    What a final five. I'll plump for Past Tense, Part 1, as I just enjoyed part two more, where Sisko has to pretend to be Gabriel Bell.

    TOS, Season 1: “The City On The Edge Of Forever”
    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2"
     
  20. Farscape One

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    Taking out "THE CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER". All the remaining stuff on this list is great, I just wish there was another way McCoy was thrown in time than being a victim of his own hypo.


    TOS Feature: “Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home”
    TNG Feature: “Star Trek: First Contact”
    DS9, Season 3: “Past Tense, Part 2"