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The least disliked episode 2021 - VOY Season Four

BlueStuff

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Our addictive biyearly game of rapid elimination returns - now able to include Disco's third season as well as the debut years of Picard and Lower Decks. It's generally a lot of fun, providing a chance to mentally revisit those episodes you may not have thought about in a while. With that in mind, why not play again?

So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favorite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode just because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.
Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

Hall of Champions
2011 - Meld
2013 - Living Witness
2017 - Blink of an Eye
2019 - Tinker, Tenor, Doctor, Spy
2021 -


Season Four

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Nemesis
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Concerning Flight
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
The Killing Game, Part I
The Killing Game, Part II
Vis á Vis
The Omega Directive
Unforgettable
Living Witness
Demon
One
Hope and Fear
 
This season is like a kid walking into a Twinkie store and gulping down almost every last individually-packed unit on the shelf... but I pity the septic system with the claimed decomposition times these cakes are claimed to (well, lack), say any number of nuclear explosion-survival jokes. In short, any is a hard choice...

Three come to mind in terms of the clunkers, but Unforgettable is. Among other things, it's too plodding and does nothing to enrich the show's lore with.


What's left:
Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Nemesis
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Concerning Flight
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
The Killing Game, Part I
The Killing Game, Part II
Vis á Vis
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
Demon
One
Hope and Fear
 
Removing Concerning Flight. Janeway’s ‘Historically sanitized version of Davinci’ obsession was cringey to begin with and this one let him out of the holodeck.

What's left:
Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Nemesis
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
The Killing Game, Part I
The Killing Game, Part II
Vis á Vis
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
Demon
One
Hope and Fear
 
What's left:
Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
The Killing Game, Part I
The Killing Game, Part II
Vis á Vis
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
Demon
One
Hope and Fear

Nemesis - it was a close call but this one nearly put me to sleep... and that's in a way worse than watching an otherwise aggravating episode.
 
Intruder alert! Vis á Vis and its doppelganger and doppled out of the running. A few goods lines, but it's another that doesn't do much that hasn't been done before (or better :( ). (But kudos for using Paris and not clean cut Kim or other Starfleet personnel...)


What's left:
Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
The Killing Game, Part I
The Killing Game, Part II
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
Demon
One
Hope and Fear
 
Demon. This whole episode is just stupid. And it has this typical Voyager/Janeway nonsense where everybody is just fine with being a template for some sort of grey goo clone of themselves.

What's left:
Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
Retrospect
The Killing Game, Part I
The Killing Game, Part II
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
Retrospect. Talk about an episode not ageing well... and even leaving that aside, too much goes unanswered, and it suffers from not being able to decide whether it wants to be a Seven episode or a Doctor episode.

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Killing Game, Part I
The Killing Game, Part II
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
The Killing Game, Part II is a silly follow-up to what was a silly premise in the first place. You have to switch your brain off anyway during these episodes with the amount of illogic .

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Scientific Method
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Killing Game, Part I
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
"Scientific Method" because well, first Janeway has needles sticking out of her head, so what if she scratches or does a facepalm (like I am doing now), shouldn't she stab her hand by doing so? Whatever... But the real problem is that Janeway "solves" the problem by not solving it, that is by doing a kamikaze run that Tuvok said they shouldn't have survived...No thought just an emotional irrational response that could... should have had all of them killed....

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Killing Game, Part I
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
I'll finish off the Killing Game by removing Part I. World War two is a setting that is both overdone and lazy. And Kate Mulgrew/Janeway in that stupid suit is just painful, as are the Hirogen in the Nazi uniforms. Sadly it won't be the last time we see literal Nazi Aliens in Trek.

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Random Thoughts
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
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Removing Random Thoughts. It's just a dumb premise. First that a society would be fragile enough that a single violent thought would turn people to murder, but that they expect to enforce this rule without telling anyone about it. It's like a less ridiculous Justice.

@freethinker

I didn't see Janeway's solution as any different than Picard's in Where Silence Has Lease. They were murdering her crew, and asking her to just stand by while her crew continues to be brutalized and murdered. There was no way to track them all down and shoot them. She had two choices, allow the murder to continue, or take a wild risk to force them to leave. She probably expected them to leave sooner.

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Mortal Coil
Waking Moments
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
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"Waking Moments" because it's just a dumb weird inexplicable alien of the week plot. I mean these people sleep all the time.. so who does all the work? Who feeds them, bathes them, changes their clothes, how do they reproduce... whatever, it's the let's start with a really stupid premise and not bother about anything...

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Mortal Coil
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
...
@freethinker

I didn't see Janeway's solution as any different than Picard's in Where Silence Has Lease. They were murdering her crew, and asking her to just stand by while her crew continues to be brutalized and murdered. There was no way to track them all down and shoot them. She had two choices, allow the murder to continue, or take a wild risk to force them to leave. She probably expected them to leave sooner.
...

I'd didn't say that Picard's solution was any better but it is slightly better though because in Picard's case it's either the alien keeps them and they all die or the alien releases them (in time) and he can stop the count-down and nobody dies. Here even if the aliens left they could, should all have died, the reason they didn't is that they're in a parallel universe where the laws of probability don't apply.

As I said I'd rather watch an episode where the solution is based on thought not on acting stupid.

You know if there is a hostage situation what happens to the guy who yells and runs toward the hostage-takers? He dies.

He doesn't miraculously survive and gets a medal (not even posthumously). like Kahless's clone once said... the wind does not respect the fool.
 
Mortal Coil...it just never ends well when Star Trek, and especially Voyager tries to tackle religion, especially in the case of Voyager, since they are usually too afraid to take a side.
Plus...sorry, but just a few ways somebody could have tried to solve Neelix' existential crisis:
1) "Whatever deity/deities you believe in knew you'd be revived and barred you from going to your afterlife"
2)"If you even went to your afterlife, your memories of it were erased, because remembering that bliss would just cause you to sit around for the rest of your life and wait for death (or even worse, actively seeking it), preventing you from living your life"
3)"You might have gone to your afterlife, but since your brain didn't go with you, there was no physical place to store any memories of it"

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
Off the mortal coil is Mortal Coil. Weak use of Borg treknobabble to explain a nondeath that wasn't since he couldn't have died any more than Yareena had. Ethan Philips, as we've seen before, has tremendous range but there could have been a stronger episode. The suicide shtick was TNG's discussion of what may be beyond was handled better in "Pen Pals".

What's left:

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
One
Hope and Fear
 
I'd didn't say that Picard's solution was any better but it is slightly better though because in Picard's case it's either the alien keeps them and they all die or the alien releases them (in time) and he can stop the count-down and nobody dies. Here even if the aliens left they could, should all have died, the reason they didn't is that they're in a parallel universe where the laws of probability don't apply.

As I said I'd rather watch an episode where the solution is based on thought not on acting stupid.

You know if there is a hostage situation what happens to the guy who yells and runs toward the hostage-takers? He dies.

He doesn't miraculously survive and gets a medal (not even posthumously). like Kahless's clone once said... the wind does not respect the fool.

Flying into the nebula was Janeway's equivalent of setting self destruct. The only difference is, Nagilum let them go soon enough to turn away.
 
"One" because of the many things that are wrong with it. like just because you stop life support doesn't mean that you're going to asphyxiate immediately. There is plenty of air in a ship the size of Voyager and she's ALONE which means that she should have enough air for a YEAR if not more!!! but whatever... I mean the whole thing wasn't really interesting... the recurrent hallucinations... the arguing with the doctor... felt... boring.

To think that in Enterprise they thought this scenario was worth cribbing!!! With Phlox playing the role of Seven!

Scorpion, Part II
The Gift
Day of Honor
Revulsion
The Raven
Year of Hell, Part I
Year of Hell, Part II
Message in a Bottle
Hunters
Prey
The Omega Directive
Living Witness
Hope and Fear
 
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