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The last Dollhouses (Spoilers.)

Guy Gardener

Guy Gardener

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The original pilot was lovely and episode 13 made my balls retract into my kidneys.

Whacky, whacky scary shit.

Felicity is just simply perfect in almost every way.

I hope she'll discuss her method.

2019 looks bad.

End of days bad.

The trip there is going to be fun especially if the future clips come to pass like in Babylon Fives Deconstruction of falling Stars.

I can't believe the wasted episodes like when she was a back up dancing body guard or the blind super Christian cult whacko when they were heading towards this and really didn't have the episodes ot waste.

That was fox.

Bastards.
 
Yeah, just watched Epitaph One and was very, very impressed.
Of course, creating a post-apocalyptic scenario isn't exactly original nowadays, but it still can be entertaining if done right, which was definitely the case here.
Also, everything that has the lovely Felicia Day in it, is bound to get thumps up for me just for that.

I was intrigued by how all our characters have evolved, and I now more than ever want to see this show run for its full course.

And even if the show gets prematurely cancelled, with this Episode, we at least know how it's going to play out in the end.
Maybe we could get more episodes like this one at the end of each season. Y'know...Epitaph Two, Three, Four and so on...

So, the way I understoood it, Topher had theorized about making a mass phone call in order to wipe anyone who'd pick up and programm them to kill anyone who didn't pick up, as a possible strategy for warfare, and someone actually used it. Is that about right?.
It was a bit difficult to understand, what with him having gone completely nuts and all.
 
That sounds about right, being responsible for the end of the world sounds like a good reason to get lost in a psychotic break, unfortunately climbing back towards a rational state requires comings to terms with his responsibilities on a couple levels, which is only going to make him lose his footing and fall off the sanity wagon again.

The tenderness DeWitt was expressing, I mean I think it would have been excellent if they'd become lovers before he cracked up, but it's probably more so that he became her surrogate child after the break down since as boss, he was already her responsibility to begin with.
 
Very intriguing episode, I can't wait to how this all happens.
And I would have loved to see where the show went from the original pilot rather than the butchered 6 episodes we got at Fox's demand. I really liked the characters a lot more in that pilot than I did in a majority of the entire season.
 
Watched about 15 minutes on YouTube, along with two different promos.

Boring, boring, boring. Bored to death, kept waiting for something of interest to happen. Dialogue was a bit clucky and reeked too much of Whedon's "Hey, let's use new terms and phrases they might use i nthe future and have people figure it out" schtick he's pulled before. The only good lines -- just two of them -- were obviouslt written with Mal and Kaylee in mind.

There was no interested, no emotion or feel to the whole thing. Even without a blank active, there was STILL nothing to connect to or be a part of. This universe Whedon has created is a dead carcas and he keeps trying to get people interested in it.

I was going to give season 2 a bit of a shot, but since that one and future seasons will all just be leading up to this boring future, there's no reason to tune in now.

What a huge waste of time, looking back now, I spent actually watching the first season (sans one episode). I'd rather watch "Young Hercules" then this again.
 
Tharpdevenport said:
What a huge waste of time, looking back now, I spent actually watching the first season (sans one episode). I'd rather watch "Young Hercules" then this again.
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lol do eeet! plus you have more of your cop shows/hospital shows/law shows/reality shows coming. you've already got a lot on your plate. :)
 
"Epitaph One" featured some scary shit.

If each possible season now ends with an 'Epitaph #' then that might be new and different. (Very Gutsy.)

Felicia!
 
Hell, I need to clean my monitor. I thought you described the show as Felicial.

I just wonder if the epitahs will be moving backwards towards the present or away into the dark futures up the time stream?

Because this would be a plausible method of space flight. Evil, but plausible. Firing human personalities at the speed of light towards meat on other planets.
 
Ugh. Netflix delivered the disc with this unaired episode. I can see why it was not aired. It sucked the oxygen right out of the atmosphere. If that's the direction the show is taking, I don't see a reason to keep watching. BOOOOORing!
 
I was impressed. Certainly one of the more original apocalypse stories I've seen. Especially since it evolves from something that didn't seem headed that way at all.

I can see why it was not aired.
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That's entirely a legal issue. Contracts and such.
 
I have a theory..

(Cue buffy the Musical Sound track.)

I thought the episode was good. really good.

Maybe the suits thought it was good to.

So good that they want to use it as the first episode next season.

I mean where else are they going to stick it?

Is it 1/13 or 2/01? in syndication you don't really notice, but if they're just playing one season at a time it's really a bloody creative line to draw.
 
I'm listening to the Epitaph One commentary now. Apparently since their usual camera crew was busy shooting Omega, EO was done primarily by the crew from 24. And it really does show in the visual style.

EDIT: HAHA, Joss wanted to put big white text over the end of Epitaph One, "To Be Canceled...."

EDIT 2: AND, they couldn't afford to both do the apocalypse and put a pop song at the end, so they just wrote something for the episode designed to sound like it wasn't just written for the episode, and had writer Maurissa Tancharoen Whedon (married to Jed) sing it!
 
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I don't get the love for the final episode. It was a lame rehash of Natural Born Killers, except not as stylistic or interesting. The premise for the entire series was wretched, the writing was nearly as bad, and the characters were about as entertaining as a root canal.

I just don't get rampant fanboys.
 
Checkmate said:
I just don't get rampant fanboys.
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This series doesn't have any rampant fanboys that I've seen. At least not on this board.

What it does have are some people who appreciate the good which is trying its best to peek out from behind the skirts of the bad.

This series is clearly Joss' weakest so far. But that still puts it above 90% of the rest of television.
 
Checkmate said:
I don't get the love for the final episode. It was a lame rehash of Natural Born Killers, except not as stylistic or interesting.

The premise for the entire series was wretched, the writing was nearly as bad, and the characters were about as entertaining as a root canal.
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I agree with the first point, but not the second. I was enjoying the series thoroughly from episode 6 to episode 12, but episode 12 really disappointed me. All this build-up to Alpha, and then when he gets the spotlight he's kinda lame.

God bless the actor for trying so hard, but I think a man with that many personalities is just impossible to play in a way that's plausible and intriguing. It was just very hokey. I hope in the next season that character is either relegated back to the shadows or tweaked significantly. I don't want to see him again as he was in that finale.
 
I think there may be some confusion as to which "last" episode is being discussed here. Most of us are talking about "Epitaph One", the post-apocalyptic story set in 2019, but the last two posts seem to be about "Omega", the Alan Tudyk episode in the normal continuity (2009).

While "Omega" was a decent enough episode, it certainly wasn't a game-changer in quite the same way "Epitaph One" was.
 
Where exactly where they climbing up to at the end of it? Is there a fleet of helicopters magically stored on the roof?
 
I guess it's a bit more like the end of Children of Men.
Meaning, there is a helicopter or something of that sort, that regularly stops by that roof in order to pick up anyone who's waiting there and bring them to Safe Haven.
 
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