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The King's Speech... Amazing film

Starbreaker said:
Of course, Americans make fun of the British because they censor pretty much any type of violence.
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This reminds me of the british version of "Skins" being relatively okay there but when the American version appeared


"Whoa! look out! this show is showing teens having sex"
 
Dimesdan said:
Starbreaker said:
Dimesdan said:
Do we? Where is your proof of that? American studios are equally responsible at changing violent scenes to allow a greater viewership so I suspect you're just talk out of your arse.
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No, I'm not... I talk out of my mouth... thank you though.

I was just listening to Guy Hamilton on the Goldfinger commentary talk about how he had to tone down the violence for the British audience and tone down the sex for the American audience.

And I heard the same thing with John Harrison and the Dune miniseries. They had to trim a couple of violent scenes for the UK release and had to cut out the nudity for the American one.

The censors look for very different things.

Maybe "censor" was the wrong word to use... but they do give more mature ratings to films with more violence while the R's and reserved for sex and language here.
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Yes censor was the wrong word, and well done, Goldfinger was made in the 1960s, well over 40 years ago, not sure about you colonials, but life's advanced a fair bit since then. So yes, as I suspected, you were talking out of your arse on what is cut from a film.

And just for the record, The Dune Mini series was shown on television, not in cinema's, so of course things will be edited out depending on what time it's being broadcast so using that as an example gets you a big fat F.
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Yeah, I was about to say, broadcast TV and Basic cable are WAAAAY different than the cinemas.

Though I will say, sex will equal an R. Violence without blood COULD earn a PG-13.
 
It didn't have any spaceships, and yet I really enjoyed this film. The climax speech was utterly moving, as was the whole [tits!] film. I loved it! Brilliant! Thanks for making it, y'all who did!
 
Dimesdan said:
Starbreaker said:
Dimesdan said:
Do we? Where is your proof of that? American studios are equally responsible at changing violent scenes to allow a greater viewership so I suspect you're just talk out of your arse.
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No, I'm not... I talk out of my mouth... thank you though.

I was just listening to Guy Hamilton on the Goldfinger commentary talk about how he had to tone down the violence for the British audience and tone down the sex for the American audience.

And I heard the same thing with John Harrison and the Dune miniseries. They had to trim a couple of violent scenes for the UK release and had to cut out the nudity for the American one.

The censors look for very different things.

Maybe "censor" was the wrong word to use... but they do give more mature ratings to films with more violence while the R's and reserved for sex and language here.
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Yes censor was the wrong word, and well done, Goldfinger was made in the 1960s, well over 40 years ago, not sure about you colonials, but life's advanced a fair bit since then. So yes, as I suspected, you were talking out of your arse on what is cut from a film.

And just for the record, The Dune Mini series was shown on television, not in cinema's, so of course things will be edited out depending on what time it's being broadcast so using that as an example gets you a big fat F.
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I'm sorry? :wtf: There's really no need for you to be rude.
 
I think the BBFC have gotten a lot better/more relaxed in recent years when it comes to cutting films, certainly a lot better than they were during the whole video nasty era.

Its interesting to see how film classification has changed just during my cinema going lifetime. There are plenty of films nowdays that get a 15 certificate that back in the day would have been hard 18s, but then I watch some 18 cert old films on DVD and they do seem quite tame. What annoys me these days is this urge to make nothing but 12A (PG13 I guess) films, and I've seen it dilute things like AVP etc, things that really need an adult rating. (I know AVP was probably a 15, but it still seemed watered down to how an Alien/Predator film should be)
 
Starbreaker said:
Maybe "censor" was the wrong word to use... but they do give more mature ratings to films with more violence while the R's and reserved for sex and language here.
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Even if this were true, and I'm not convinced it is, I would much rather that way round. I can't really see that my kids hearing the same words in the cinema they'd hear on any street or seeing a naked human body being remotely damaging. I'd rather they didn't sit through loads of glorified violence, however. Films like Saving Private Ryan which are very graphic but educational and realistic? No problem. And that film got a special pass form the British rating board on the violence and the swearing because of its educational value. But I do find it interesting when glorified consequence-less violence is given much more leeway than possibly seeing a flash of some tits. That logic doesn't make sense to me.


Dimesdan said:
Yes censor was the wrong word, and well done, Goldfinger was made in the 1960s, well over 40 years ago, not sure about you colonials, but life's advanced a fair bit since then. So yes, as I suspected, you were talking out of your arse on what is cut from a film.

And just for the record, The Dune Mini series was shown on television, not in cinema's, so of course things will be edited out depending on what time it's being broadcast so using that as an example gets you a big fat F.
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Tone it down. You can refute points without the sarcy rudeness.
 
No problem. Just remember that it's not just people from the wrong side of the pond who hang out around here.
 
Oooooo, spank!

This will probably wind up in my collection sooner or later, going right next to Shakespeare in Love. [EDIT: That is to say, in my relatively small section of DVDs Without Spaceships.]

This was a great film. Magnificent in every way I thought.
 
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